1- Informations about pirate life, mainly invasion, is secret and not to share either with clan or landlubbers.
2-DD found in pirate island is to be return when the deseased ask/prouve than its his/hers.
3- Troublemarker and thoses catch on betraying pirates would be in a way or the other punished.

Help me with the rest!

Seriously?

Yes seriously

Edited on 09-08-2011 22:58

what if we find the said DD on say Kanzo of a pirate ?

Invasions can be seen by donators anyway, I dont see the point

As answered in chat, it is for spoiling before and before the word is sprayed. Anyways mod annonce we wont have the message in chat anymore.

The reason for not telling anyone when an invasion is happening is to give it the best chance of success. Just because some donators will log in or check the events list when there is an invasion doesn't mean everyone knows. The less people who know the better the chance of success. Some invasions in the past have succeeded with only 1 or 2 pirates left, so even a minor difference can lead to success.

haha, I like the idea of kicking people from the pirates!

Awesome!

That will serve them right for breaking the piratey code.

No more announcement in Pirate chat? Interesting.

Well, don't know about now, but one of our captains used to say "don't discuss invasions at all," because in the event of a mischat, the info would thus be leaked. No discussion, no worries about mischatting the info.

WTG mod kicking pirates if only there was a fair way to give that power to the pirates themselves

"WTG mod kicking pirates if only there was a fair way to give that power to the pirates themselves "

That would be another topic, but i'm going to go ahead and make a point. Long winded speech time. If that power were given, to pirates as a group or captain as an individual, what possible uses would you predict from it?

I'll use me and nirvanaishdude as an example, cuz i know he dislikes me, but not saying he'd actually do it. If the power were given to captain, nirv, what's to stop him from booting me from pirates simply cuz i give him trouble? He may deem me as not useful to the pirates, and he'd be right if for no other reason, than i've been rather inactive. There you have sufficient grounds and power, so how can i argue with what happened?


Now, if power's given to pirates as a group, you can imagine any kind of similar scenario arising? After certain individuals, or so many people, being kicked, what do you imagine will be the general response? What do you think the noisy ones alone will do, if they get kicked? What power will mods have to intervene, as the use of power to cause this issue, was given to players for their right to be more "pirate like?"

There's several issues to be covered if this idea is to be effective. I'm not saying it's impossible to do, but it certainly won't be simplistic. If such an idea is to be truly considered, details need covered and scenarios be envisioned. It'll probably take several people discussing back and forth for a real idea to form ground, otherwise it'll just be something that will be the root of a lot of drama.

Edited on 10-08-2011 19:52

I like to think the mods are the only ones with the power to really investigate who might give up invasion information. That said, they're in the best position to punish a player for doing it.

Might be worth adding a second click when joining, one that forces all pirates joining to accept the policy or opt not to travel to Skull

If only there was a fair way *sighs* I did say that

Yeah, but an obscure point, doubtlessly raises questions. I'm just the type that likes to point out the answers to the questions that seem like they're obviously going to be asked.

I really would love to see some ideas that are somewhat feasible, just to see what people are thinking.

I would think it would be a requirement that pirates are decent to each other while in pirate chat. I'm not sure about everyone else but I became a pirate cause I figured that pirate chat, having less players in it, would be a kinder environment. If you absolutely cannot get along with someone then you can iggy them or ignore them the old fashioned way.

If pirates are to be loyal to each other (not spill secrets) and honorable amongst each other (returning the DDs) then the least we can ask for is a bit of decency. Not saying you have to treat each other like close kin or lovers...just you know...tolerate one another at the least?

OK. I've avoided saying anything more and I refuse to give up any sources...

But, the traitor that told his clan about the new pirates is known. This comes from what I consider an unquestionable source. Now what?

1) Can a mod address if there will be punishment as stated above?

2) Will their name be published for all pirates to see and know?

I ask because I think it's imperative that as a community, we stick together. I, for one, will not deal with this individual in any trade and should he ever seek any assistance from me, I'll abruptly decline.

My personal opinion, see what the pirate community thinks the appropriate action is, but don't release any names until something is firmly decided. If people seem satisfied in having that individual kicked off skull, then i'd say report to a mod and get it done. If the consensus is to have that person shunned by the pirate community, then i'd understand the name being released.

The problem being though, not everyone exhibits enough self control, or is mature enough, to deal with this situation appropriately. Should the name be released, i think it's inevitable that the person will proceed to be trolled/flamed. Deserving of this or not, everyone still needs to keep in mind the rules and that they exist for a reason.

I'm feeling rather dichotomous about this.

Player punishment is between the player and the mod. BUT, is this punishment? Is this a rule or a community policy?

Disclosing the player's name assures they are shamed by all pirates, but you're right. People will ultimately take matters int their own hands.

Then we would need a rule to say we can't overtly retaliate...

The result is rules and more rules. Maybe it's wisest that the Mods simply punish and maybe just post in chat or here something like "A traitor be found! He be walkin the plank!!"

At least it gives us the comfort of knowing the rat's are being taken care of. Aside from that, secrets don't last long anyway. It'll eventually get out.

"At least it gives us the comfort of knowing the rat's are being taken care of. Aside from that, secrets don't last long anyway. It'll eventually get out."

Yep, if it's a person who's used pirate chat much, generally people will realize if they suddenly vanish. However, there are a number of people on skull who don't chat, and don't even use forums. Very very few will notice they're gone, and out of those few, who gurantees that anything will be said so that the rest of the pirates know?

There are a few factors, including some i've doubtlessly overlooked, to take into account in this situation. In the end though, the pirate community is suffering, so i think the pirate community should be permitted to at least voice their opinions, even if no action is taken on the opinions.

I would love to see traitors walk the plank. Means that if they have pirate enabled they'd see us jeering seconds before they get evicted ;)

Fair is the whole thing. I have been a pirate for three year or more. I do not trust half the pirates. I know some would kick just on the fact they do not like the person. popularity alone would be a good enough reason. I have not played the game for a long time. To be kicked because of not playing is not only not fair but it is saying your not popular enough for me to keep you here. This is a game after all and when you get tired of your game you should be able to put it away til it is fun again, not be punished for expressing your opinion.

Main code I was taught by nirv himself is never tell there is an invasion or when. If during an invasion someone asks how to join or where to go to join have them get a keg of rum and head to that one island that you sail over from (no I don"t really remember the name). If you can not say anything nice about someone or to them, don't talk to them or about them.

i kinda like these ^_^

Edited on 15-08-2011 04:36

I know that some might disagree with me, but this is just my own personal opinion.

I would LOVE to know right now who leaked. I worked my butt off, as did many others, to get some nice gains from this attack. I spent days in the stock house cooking fish and donating resources. I went from -134 to -161 fame, and got just over 600 gold. The only reason I can think of for there being 4 fails out of 7 is that someone opened their big mouths. We should have been able to get more then just 3 towns. We had one heck of an army for Nirv to send out! So I say let them Walk the Plank, but publicly. There are already rules set in place about flaming and trolling and harassing, so no new ones need to be added.

Even if it is done in secret, I want someone to tell me who. I agree with Laz, I will not trade with them nor help them in any way. Again, this is just how I feel. Not trying to tell others how they should feel.

Can this be stickied, to insure that New Pirates see this? Please?

So invasion was leaked by Jett this time , about 40 joiners more people to leak invasions and more people to break the pirate rule and more DD's to be stolen.

Can't think of anything to avoid this.

However what mods can do is , asking for invasion list be made muteable , posting of any invasion like this :- [2] 09:40 Dragoon227[LLL]: There are 6751 Roughnecks left. Be made muteable too. Any thoughts?

Edited on 23-08-2011 09:44

No NU, Simply because pirates had already captured that town, when i and him posted it, meaning that while they are already captured, and pirates have recieved their rewardsexp or whatever they get,

That mainlands still can clear them out and that "joining the pirates" option will be there until they are gone.

No shatter thats different he posted it the moment the invasions were sent.

The code only applies to pirates. You can't stop the landlubbers from posting it in world chat and there's really nothing wrong with posting AFTER the invasion has landed. The real point is that information is confidential before the invasion lands. This doesn't mean it's a good idea to spill invasion information, but it's not that big a deal after the invasion lands.

As far as Jett goes, I really don't see what he did wrong. If an invasion has already hit, it's public information. While I like Jett, if the invasion has NOT landed, then it breaks the code and should be punished.

"f the invasion has NOT landed, then it breaks the code and should be punished."

It had landed when he asked for the info. A quote from another thread and that i personally saw in chat.


[6] 06:54 2849 pirates are attacking: Sorer lair, Webbed forest, Silk woods, Mentan, Franer Mines, Web haven and Sorer mines
[2] 06:55 Jett Darknight[PsyKo]: anyon hav an vnt list?
[2] 06:56 Jett Darknight[PsyKo]: event list^

No that shouldn't be muteable .

Its out job to invade but theirs to fight us off they should be able to ask for help in world chat from other mainlanders. The only problem is pirates leaking info not mainlanders sharing it.

"The only problem is pirates leaking info not mainlanders sharing it."

I have suspicions that he was a pirate before the invasion, someone in chat claimed he was but i wasn't able to confirm it personally, so idk.
After the invasion hit, he joined the pirates, i saved a chat log if you'd like to see, as proof of the trouble.


"Moderator edit:
Only pirate captain knows exactly when and where the invasion is going to happen so no longer able to leak info"

That's false. Announcement happens when the invasion is prepared, announcement also happens when invasion lands. Pirates don't know the time between launch and landing, but they can easily see when it's being prepared and when it actually hits. To top it off, there's still the event list. It is quite easy to leak info if one desires.

Edited on 23-08-2011 17:01

It takes atleast an hour for people to notice that an invasion is going on , he asked for an invasion list which aroused suspicion in everyone and then everyone checked leading to quick spread of chat about how the pirates are invading.

*Gives Roen a tight hug*

Thats for mentioning me.

I notice the Mod edit no longer says traitors will be kicked. Can we get clarification on the status of this from a mod please?

As far as Jett goes, I really don't see what he did wrong. If an invasion has already hit, it's public information.

If we stick to syrnia rules, then yeah, he did nothing wrong at all. But if were talking about teamwork and spirit of pirates, he has dishonored himself completely. Publically asking for an event list 1 minute after pirates arrive is the same as saying "hey everyone, go fight pirates now!" Saying there is nothing wrong with it is just....wrong.

Edited on 23-08-2011 21:50

I agree with Bitey on this one.

Shall we add that pirates do not attack other pirates in the OL?

we need those gold and silver bars,you know...

OL is a dangerous place. If we are allowed to thieve other pirates I don't see why we shouldn't attack each other.

Also, if there are silver bars in a DD the killer could donate them to stock if they wish.

Bitey,

I'm not saying that his choice wasn't a poor one, but in the context of the question and proposed punishment, he didn't give away invasion information. If people choose to personally shun him, that's well within their rights. At the same time, if there is to be a punishment (which a Mod has yet to ring in on) then one has to have broken a rule or 'the code'. In this case, it doesn't appear it was truly violated.

I'm not trying to argue the point, though as a newly reintroduced idea, the expectation needs to be made clear. At the same time, in the absence of moderator feedback, we really don't know if this is something that can be punished.

I feel that if we can approve a pirate's code, and a community punishment, then we might have to manage these things this way. While it doesn't rise to the level of "punishment", I believe that a public shunning of violators of the code might be all we can do.

Lazarus, you're misinformed if you believe he didn't knowingly violate the code. He later proved that he willingly and knowingly leaked the invasion, just to be a jerk.

At first, he claimed innocence that he couldn't know when the invasion was. That quickly switched to him saying he had inside informants. Then he knew when all the pirate invasions would be. He's already said he intends to leak all the pirate invasions to make it hard on pirates.

You can say it again, that jett is not violating the code, but i can't view it as any other way. He's going out of his way just to mess with the pirate invasion. If he truly figures out when the invasions are launched, and announces it every time in a similar manner to the previous invasion, i think we can expect more fails.


Please note my sig, and that just because i don't directly and openly come out and sling slander and insults around, does not mean i'm not belittling someone. You can indirectly state something, as an attempt to cover up your real intention. And anyone arguing this point with me, has just proved they're not worth my time as they're neither willing to listen nor accept another person's thoughts on the basis that the person listening may be wrong.

I would have to say that you're right, Roen. I was not aware of those admissions on his part and find it greatly disappointing to say the least.

I think you'll find me to be one of the most open minded people you'll come across and likely because I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I refuse to make assumptions. At the same time, I'm not afraid to challenge another person's thoughts and ideas, partly because I know myself to be a well thought out and well spoken person but also because we learn the most through open discourse with open minds. I'm not beyond being wrong or admitting it and hope my solid defense of a position is never seen as closed mindedness.

Back to the point, if Jett indeed claimed those things, then I shun him as well. I'll not give favorable action or support to someone that betrays the pirate code. In the bigger picture, I would still like a Mod to chime in on the status of punishment. It's either a Mod issue or a community issue. If we have to deal with it among us, then we need to reach a concenus on how we will approach traitors from here on out.

I did send a ticket to mods other day, covering the problem, my concerns, and proposing what i perceive to be possible solutions. I did get a response, just so pirates can be aware this matter as at least acknowledged. Not gonna say much though, due to ticket rules.

And my apologies to everyone, i know i'm being unnecessarily rough in my last two posts, at the least. RL's got me irate.

I have become aware that there is a Judas among us. Someone that claims to live by the code has turned around and told others of the invasion. I'll leave it to him to come forward.

No one respects the code anymore might as well delete is.

It's time to give Pirates of Dedication the right to Kick.

A 3/5 vote to kick a player.

Sounds reasonable.

Pirate captain = 1
then need 4 more.
*(nods)*

I agree with Naruto, the code is dying.. Damn Landlubbers posing as pirates!

I like Vari's idea, but with restrictions. If the captain along with 4 other (regardless of how they are chosen) get to vote it should be more like a vote to request a kick, rather than vote to kick.

This then takes away the chance of it being a popularity contest as no pirates have the right to kick and once the reasoning is given over to a mod via tickets, the mods decide if it is far or if it is something that they shouldn't be kicked for.

But for this to also work, it would need to be a kick with a ban of XX days/weeks/months from skull (maybe progressive with record, maybe just a long ban) to discourage the code being dishonored or from a previous post, information being leaked.

Edited on 23-09-2011 06:55

I agree with bex that something like this should be put into place. After all, pirates were not to nice to those that did not follow their code!

Perfect Flawless Idea; I agree.

That way not just Anyone (like me) can be kicked without a heads-up.


I like it. 3/5 wins, and then it's up to the Bug Mod or Game Info mod(haz?)

The mods probably won't agree as it "limits" the way of role playing.

This message:-

The signal has been given! Pirate forces have been assembled and will launch an attack soon. ARRR

and the message that appears when the attack has been sent needs to be removed.

Agreed Naru.

Has been said many times in chat, but not here that I see of.


But, we do need to beable to kick unruly Pirates.

captain blackbeard was ruthless and mean i say all traitors must fight captain keelhail alone if they lose they are given the black spot and kicked from pirates never able to join again or have a time scale

also losing their inventory all donatable stuff is automatically added to the stockhouse

if that was made effective who the hell would risk being a traitor

Don't think the players will ever get the right to kick other players from skull.

"i say all traitors must fight captain keelhail alone"

High CL players could probably do it. Otherwise, why not just store all your stuff at a house on serpenthelm, then leak the info? All that happens, you will die (lose nothing) and kicked off of pirates for a while, correct? While i enjoy the idea, i don't think it would be too effective.

Just by viewing this thread one can see the code is still alive. And this will remain so as long as theres pirates left who do enforce them. Enforcing them means that some disbelievers can eventually see the pirates way as well.

On my last stay at Skull, before my recent return, I founded a DD during my afktime at Nose.
Then in chat I noticed that it belonged to not just a known codebreaker, but a fella I personally totally disliked both for breaking the code as for how the fella behaved in chat. After thinking it over for a couple of seconds I decided the only way to show the code to such a twat is to enforce the code and I decided to return the DD. For that matter, how could one ever tell such a guy he's wrong for not following community policy if that policy isnt return on such a fella? If you dont agree with me at this, and wouldnt return a DD to such a fella, well then you're not following and enforcing the piratecode yourself either.

Respect the code.

Kundar that is probably the best way to enforce the code

Roen allthough my idea is flawed i do see your points about storing items as for addressing the issue of leaking info and code breaking i guess all we can really do as pirates is keep to the code ourselves if the majority of us respect the code we can overcome the few who disrespect it

LOL "Pirate Code".

That's cute.

Willie = Newb.

All new pirates laugh at the code - then wonder why us older players respect it when someone dies.

Hello - we fellow pirates look out for our own.
We Do have a code.
We always have.
I've been here 6 years. It's only the Newbies that think the code is a joke as willie likes laugh at.

But, it is there - if new players die, or need help - they can look to the pirates and receive help from often times the older pirates who still follow the code.

Sounds to me like a clan.

I see no reason all Pirates should be forced to follow the same "code", when Pirates are by definition rule-breakers.

Not forced.
Just, when a newb dies and gets his items back - he has the code, as well as the person honoring it, to thanks.

If a player dies, and his items aren't returned - it is one of the few in the 25% of the pirates that don't follow the code.

If you break the code, the pirates turn on you. I remember once in pirate chat someone bragged about not returning a death drop... chat looked ugly every time s/he entered chat, until s/he eventually left.

It is more of a suggestion.

The code can be a bit stupid sometimes. If you like it, follow it. If you think it is dumb, don't.

Personally I don't follow it... I make my own decisions on a case by case basis. Being a pirate doesn't make you special in my eyes. You just need a keg of rum to do that. Being a respected member of our community (either Syrnia or within the pirates) or a friend of mine makes you a special enough person to get your DD back.

Edit: To clarify, it is the DD part of the code. I don't leak that invasions are coming to even my clanmates. It is best to not even copy/paste that stuff so it doesn't get put in the wrong chat (as mentioned from before).

Edited on 21-08-2012 22:09

"when Pirates are by definition rule-breakers. "

You're crap at defining things, then.

Nirvana, allow Merriam-Webster to define it then.

Pirate - One who commits or practices piracy
Piracy - An act of robbery on the high seas

Last I checked, robbery was against the rules in most civilizations.

there is honour amoungst thieves

Sorry about that Mobbie :'-(

I didn't even put that one on my notes because I choobed it =(

I recently dropped a horse for a player so they could get to the Halloween witch more quickly. You'd of thought that with all the people getting bailed and everyone helping each other out, that the player would be able to get the horse as was intended. Guess the gift of giving only goes so far.

That's my gripe for the today. ;)

After a recent (failed) attempt at my shops gold I'd say stealing items on skull is fine but not gold

If my shop gets robbed I won't get upset I'll just lower the stock like my mains shop but that will only leave pirates with one less place to get gear.

You choose what your priorities are thief or pirate.

As I only thieve, I mainly steal burnts from the clan shop. I do however, get bored and will take it out on other peoples shop items. Whatever I remove from someones shop I gladly return if asked. If the shop owner decides to take an aggressive approach to it, then no, they don't get returned.

After re-reading this discussion and being a pirate for a while now, I must say I truly enjoy living the pirate life, not because of the timers or what have you- it is because of the awesome people and because of this wonderful code we do have...And after reading comments about people leaking of when invasions are, I dislike thinking that any pirate would do that(and way I feel- even to their clannies before it happens)- people speak about it in world, that should be sufficient enough I say

seems the pirates are the most dodgy... and there is a Mod at the tp, fuuny how i said he is sous and got a 5 hour mute... i said he is sour because he wants to ruin the halloween invasions... what a Mod eh? 1 with his own agenda, sounds like a politician..

Elvengoddess is female and who cares if she's a mod she did a good job

Explain the theft rule for me... so we are allowed to steal from shop with indecent prices on them (2 gp iron ores and such), but otherwise safe from gold theft and item thefts? if i am working somewhere else, can someone theive me without breaking the code?

Thieving players is fine except just after an invasion

Thieving shop items is fine though when on skull it may mean less items in shops for legitimate buyers.

Thieving shop gold or organised thieving raids is frowned upon

And most importantly any type of fuss around the invasions will not be tolerated

thank you! helped very much

Um... Doesn't the code also say "no thieving pirates at Hooks Edge"?

http://tlgrounds.com/index.php?pirate

"Some of the rules in the pirate code include returning death drops when on skull island or to a known pirate off skull island. Not thieving players working at the hooks edge university, and not informing anyone of imminent pirate invasions."

Or, is TL Grounds misinformed?

It's true Sameal.

It's true Samael.


Sabotaging trades between pirates and learning sessions isn't that nice. <_< >_>

the code is basically do not be a dick, the fact that people have joined recently and took a nice number 2 on the code makes me wonder why people are even here.

the code has been around longer than a great deal of players and is far more respected than them as well.

if people are quick to actually quote the code then start following the code.

I say remove the invasion from donation options. just for the pirates invasions until they succeed. After they succeed they apear in the donators events.

Sorry only 4 years old/late on this post

Thieving rules only apply to Training Trading/Construction, or after events inwhich people locate at the Stockhouse.

As for shops, most generally only thieve Thieving shops here. I personally wouldn't steal from a player shop on skull simply because they may be the person who adds orbs I need to teleport, or such and don't want them to take that away. (Just a simple example.)

"2016-07-14 01:03

lastknight tried to thieve you at Skulls nose, but was caught on the crime scene and has been sent to jail for 390 seconds.

2016-07-14 03:25
lastknight tried to thieve you at Skulls nose, but was caught on the crime scene and has been sent to jail for 390 seconds."

Respect the pirates' code you filthy code breaker!!!

Edited on 14-07-2016 09:11

I'm not a code breaker. Thieving isn't against the code. You need to settle down man.

Edited on 14-07-2016 01:49

Go steal from mainlanders, traitor!

if you got my DD at hooks, message me and will buy my ogre plate,boots valera sword back

if you got my DD at hooks, message me and will buy my ogre plate,boots valera sword back...

Y the hell is nutsy needing to buy back a DD from skull island.. whoever kept it your a joke.. dont like the pirate code then bugger off back to mainland..

Seriously!!!

2 in one week, no return? Shame....

Cast they were both Maycontainnuts drops craftmeister is trying to retrive them for him

Edited on 04-04-2017 15:36

Ah, okay. Still we have someone who needs to walk the plank amongst us.

If pirates are not sending invasions, does that mean the pirate code is no longer a thing? We've have so many mutinies that we are now only an island of mutiny.

Don't accuse someone of breaking the code unless you are prepared to deal with the repercussions. That is not an accusation to take lightly.


I'm also going to suggest we write a new code. This one is a bit dated and the original post doesn't cover much. It doesn't talk about player killing pirates, thieving, how to behave in pirate chat..

Also begs the question, should the code be upheld for "landlubbers" who visit during the holidays for the invasions? Should it be upheld for known code breakers? Should it be upheld for players who brag about not following it?

I think the code should be mended to follow thus:

-Respect those in Orange. If you don't like them ignore them.
-Return Death drops to the best of your ability. (If no one claims it or if the person who died is on your ignore and will not work through a 3rd party it shouldn't be held against you the player. You shouldn't be forced to not ignore abusive pirates who regularly harass you on the /off chance/ you happen to run into their death drop. If that happens if they want want their stuff back working through a 3rd party should suffice. If I was on someone's ignore and died I wouldn't expect them to return my items to me unless through a 3rd party.)



As to player killing and shop thieving as well as the general pick pocketing. Those shouldn't be penalized/added to the code since they are coded parts of the game. As such using them isn't even termed harassment even when players are purposefully harass thieving others to spam their inbox.

Also they removed the announcement in pirate chat (unless they added it back since the last invasion I was around for) so the only way for a pirate invasion to get out is for the captain themselves to announce it until it lands. Once it lands the event list and landlubbers take care of the "spilling" of it. Meaning that part of the rule is kind of unnecessary. However if it was left in for the future or in case there is a way to determine before the invasion lands I wouldn't be against it.


As for what to do with code breakers. I would say if you feel someone has broken the code? Ignore them. Harassing and attacking them will ONLY get you in trouble with the mods and drive others in orange to find you distasteful. There never will likely be a game caused punishment for breaking of the "code" and even if there was it would go before the mods before a user is punished. After all if left to the normal pirate players to decide a punishment it would be used as a popularity contest to try and get people "undesirable" to the majority of pirates to not be on skull which isn't fair to users. For example. Say Player A joins during an invasion and Player B is a pirate and hates Player A. Player B makes the claim that Player A broke the code. Player B turns out to have the higher amount of Pirates on their side so Player A gets punished just because they had the misfortune to have Player B's animosity and Player. Even saying "kick and they can come back when they learn better" won't work because regardless if the player did/did not break the Code no one in orange will trust them and people would just keep voting to kick them off.

Anything left to a vote would never be fair as votes in online game tend to be based on popularity rather than actual merit.

As for how to "behave" in Pirate chat. That is simple. Follow the chat rules as outlined by the game rules. If you troll/harass expect to be muted. Again it boils down to respect. If you treat everyone in Orange with respect while ignoring those who you feel you cannot then you are behaving as you should. End of story.

"Those shouldn't be penalized/added to the code since they are coded parts of the game"

Dying is a "coded part," too. Why should we offer a "protection" of sorts against death on Skull and not thieving? If a pirate is in the OLs obtaining resources for the pirate cause, why should fellow pirates not allow the said player to continue work?

As far as punishing code breakers, I am for the "Name and Shame" campaign. Some of the older pirates can attest to this practice. It used to be common to spread the name of code breakers and the reputation of the code breaker would plummet amongst the pirate community. I, personally, feel the goal was to get the code breaker to feel isolated from the pirate community and to leave our home. We don't need, nor do we want, players who will not respect the pirates.

Can I suggest making it official re: pirate code that we leave Skull event invasions to be the last that are killed off*? That way we both take from the mainlanders AND have our own private events? Should this apply to only mobs or include skill events as well?

*NOTE: Does not apply to finding this whole island update thing. I really hope a pirate finds it first.

Edited on 19-05-2020 19:08