Syrnian Code of Honour

Many times do we see people complaining about some players and their behaviour. Many times we just see little details that make the difference between a peaceful game-play and a stressful one.
Little 'rules' can be laid down to represent what some people call 'proper manners'.
Most of them are simple, uncostly habits, that make playing this game so much easier.

- Keep your promises. When people are promised something, they are very disappointed when the promise isn't kept.

- Be grateful. When you have been helped by someone, try to help him/her as well.

- When trading, don't change the deal after an accord, or if you have to, make sure that the person you are trading with is ok with it. People can get touchy if a profitable deal has changed into something they don't need/want.

- When trading, always let someone know how long it is going to take you to get to the trading post. There is nothing more irritating than having to sit in one place when the person you are waiting for is miles away.

- When trading, and someone is waiting for you, equip your horse!! It is wrong for you to take your time and gain speed experience while whoever is waiting for you isn't gaining any. You should have a horse in your inventory, to use to reach trading posts, at all times (1k gp isn't too much for anyone). If you don't have a horse or your horse died, let your trade partner know, if he/she wants, they might train their speed level too, or do something else in the meantime.

- When trading, never thieve your trade partner before/after the trade!! This is plain and simple manners. Not only would it be backstabbing, but you gain a very bad reputation and people will stop trading with you.

- In Arch. Caves, sometimes people allow players to join fights against dinos towards the end. Never forget that you have to ask permission!! It is very irritating when you've been sweating to take down a monster with 200hp and when it has 10 hp someone joins and enjoys the spoils, and without asking too!!

- In Arch. Caves, if you have permission to join a fight at the last moment, and you do, return any drops you might get!!

- When applying to a clan, be serious about it. Only try to join clans you really want to be a part of. People don't like it when a new clannie disappears without a word.

- Always let your clannies/trade partners/friends know about your decisions. When you leave a clan, let all your clannies know why, or message the clan leader so he/she can post the reasons in clan forum news. If you are a clan leader and you kick someone, it is only polite to send them a message explaining your gesture. If you cancel a trade, for any reason, let your trade partner know so that he/she doesn't waste time and sit at a trading post with a large amount of money. This includes needing to leave the PC because of RL. A whisper is all it takes, and it saves people a big hassle.

- Confidential means confidential. When people share personal information about themselves or others, it is very rude to tell other people without the permission of the person in question.

- In Forum, serious topics are to be taken seriously. Making a joke during an auction, for example, can and sometimes will disrupt the auction and the item(s) will not be sold.



Just because you are staring at pixels doesn't mean you're not dealing with human beings. Syrnia is a MMORPG and real people play it. This is why education and good manners are always important. Kindness isn't tangible, but it does make a difference when people come here to have fun, and not to argue or get angry with people.
That being said, I hope this post will be useful to players old and new, and that somehow somewhere it might help people get along better

Thank you for reading,


Thunder of The Legion

Common sense mostly! Ive been anoyed several times by the "no horse thing"

Sticky please?

if only members of large clans would follow this.

If only everyone would follow this.

A very nice idea Thunder.

What a great post! Thank you Thunder!

Valid points Thunder

Good post Thunder, i hope it gets stickied

Edit: Thanks for stickying Mods

Edited on 02-02-2010 21:45

I agree . Stick this as is!

Edited on 02-02-2010 21:31

nice post indeed.

Rofl, I see you took some time to make this, but I think it was a waste of time. Simply put many don't enjoy being "nice" ingame and following a code of honor.



Flame me all you want, but that's just my 2 cents

very nice post, and thank you for taking the time to type out a set of very well mannered guidelines.

Great post. Vote Sticky!

stick it

Come on Mods! Sticky this Thread

Edit: Woah... they already have...

Edited on 03-02-2010 07:38

when arriving at a arch 2 location and you see me there opening a combo chest.

be polite and leave so i can open it in peace

I just recently got my combat level high enough to go to Arch Caves 4 and I had no idea fighters feel like they own the dinos once the fight starts. Do most fighters really feel that way? I realize everyone there tells others when they find a dino and where it's at... and wait for others to arrive before starting a fight, but when I arrive at that location or log in I tend to jump into the dino fight when I see one going on. So that was rude to do that?

tiff, if you didn't know, it's not rude.

but it's really no fun for people when they fight a dino all alone, then at the end have a person jump in to take half the exp and perhaps even the drop.

so most of the time people ask how much hp the dino has left before joining

Okay, thank you. Now I know. ;)

Its always best to ask the progress. Unless you know it just spawned, that person could have been fighting for a while. If they put in the work, they deserve the spoils.

I usually give 'permission' for people to jump in if more than 50% of the Hps are left. Its not really permission since they could still jump in if they wanted to, but I wouldn't care for it (and probably wouldn't cooperate with them in the future). I figure at that point, I'll probably be putting in 75% of the total work and have taken 75% of the damage, its pretty reasonable that I deserve the xp and drop.

I've had someone (who wasn't new to AC4) not ask and jump in when the dino was 2/168, got half the xp and the drop. Offered the drop back which I declined, but was still incredibly rude. Asking avoids those situations tho.

when arriving at a arch 2 location and you see me there opening a combo chest.be polite and leave so i can open it in peace

Yes pedro

Edited on 03-02-2010 23:17

Bravo, Thunder!

Quite sad state of the syrnian community when common sense needs to be put in forums and stickied.

But if it helps a few Newbs (and others) settle into Syrnia in a nice way, then surely that's a good thing Vipers?

Nice Thread Thunder

You think rude players are going to read this and take notice?

*shrugs and leaves thread*

I fail to see why this even needs sticking at all...as mentioned, it's unlikely that the target audience will ever read this and therefore it is pointless. This is as much use as some of my various manuals on how to write a post better. The people who should read them never do.

Besides, these are just how you believe people should act and in a sense, by having it stickied up here its getting other people to act in the same way. You seem to be missing the point of what an "MMORPG" is, the key three letters being RPG. An RPG is a Role Playing Game, and people can play whatever role they want whether it be nice or not, and your code of honour is almost discouraging them from following their own choice of role which might be to play that of a completely dishonest person.

If that is how someone wishes to play the game then thats their choice and I object that this is almost being adopted as a code of law. Note the use of almost which means that some are adopting it.

Edited on 04-02-2010 14:03

Oddly enough, I agree with Calgor on this.

If the target audience truly is the "newbs", Than history has shown us, and continues to show us, that they have no interest in reading more than is necessary to get by.

Example...
[2]13:30 randomNewb: Where do I fish at?
[2]13:30 HelpfulRandom: The Manual will answer your questions
[5]13:31 randomNewb: Where do I fish at?
[5]13:31 (Guide): You can fish at Lisim. The Syrnia Manual will tell you all the locations to work at, Also the level required to work there.
[5]13:32 randomNewb: What level to fish at Lisim?

My point is, You can lead a Newb to Water, But you can't make him drink XD

You can make him taste the water though.

Although the version here is full of Syrnian references, its actually nothing to do with Syrnia, its what a friend of mine used to call " game couth ", which should stem from a sense of decency, good manners and common sense within the game world ( any game world ), translating from the real world.

Whilst there are some mildly clueless people that can be guided by this sort of thing ( or maybe those that have been allowed to get away with bad behaviour in other games and think its the acceptable norm ), I agree that the majority of people that *need* to read this sort of thing never will, or won't be influenced by it. They are usually the kind of folks that would need a decent sized sledgehammer to whomp decency and manners into them with any measure of effectiveness.

I don't agree with the premis that " guides " like this are preventing people from roleplaying bad guys though. You have to be reasonably smart to *be* an effective thief, murderer etc. You do not need to have any brains or roleplaying skills at all to be an idiot, a scammer, a rude pottymouth, careless, clueless, ignorant, irritating, whiny, annoying, unreasonably demanding or a general all round pain in the gluteus maximus.

Art imitates life.

I fully agree with Calgor on this. I don't like the way this has been almost listed as an 'actual' set of rules (to the point of being stickied for all to see). Its is completely up to the individual how they decide to play, and they shouldn't have real life ethics or morals shoved in their faces in a fantasy game. Unsticky this please mods, its an insult to intelligence, let people make their own decisions as to how to properly act.

Edited on 04-02-2010 15:01

highly arrogant.... i remember when there was a time that death drops were not a cool thing now i see older players and newer bragging and its status qou.
yes syrnian honor only exists at face value for most,and when there is no profit to be made at the expense of ones name...

Several things are to be said here.

First, these are not rules. These are 'suggestions' on how to avoid confrontations with other players. In this very thread we have seen people discovering some details of how they behaviour actually affects players around them.

The word 'honor' has been used specifically for this reason. Honor is not a set of rules, it is just a model of polite and decent behaviour.

It is up to the player's own free will to walk along or over this 'code'. So this takes nothing away from syrnia being an RPG.

And to whoever agrees with calgor, I hope you know that he would have complained about any thread. I bet he would have tried to convince you that water isn't wet.

I haven't seen him trying to get the mods to unsticky his own thread about clan advertising, when he himself says that people who should read these sort of things don't.

EDIT: Quoting from calgor post in clan forum, on how to write a decent clan ad...

"It doesnt always reach the intended audience I agree but as long as it is here, I believe that it has the potential to reach some people."

Edited on 04-02-2010 15:34

Thunder may I point out this simple thing.

A thread is not going to teach what parents should teach those who play this game. I doubt a thread is going to be a life changing moment for anyone who reads this.

As said this is all common sense and to have to post that is quite sad. Infact a little belittling.

If someone has no manners or common decency, this thread will not change that.

"I doubt a thread is going to be a life changing moment for anyone who reads this."

I don't think that's the purpose of this thread, Viper.

Edited on 04-02-2010 16:03

I think it is, to change how they act in online life Wyks. If was not to try change people why was it posted?

Anyway am not against this thread might help some players.

My point am trying to get across is, some will always be a lost cause.

Edited on 04-02-2010 16:05

There is a big difference between this and Calgors clans post. At no point in his thread does he tell people what they should or shouldn't do, he merely offers information relevant to choosing a clan or creating a clan post (actual useful information!). I am well aware that Cal likes to play devils advocate, but he is right on occasions, including this one. If this is not a set of rules ,then why list them like one?, why call it a 'code of honor', which suggests universal agreement? It is not your's or anybodys place to set moral guidelines for others to follow. Such things do not exist in a computer game, especially a text based one in my opinion. And these are just your opinions as well, so get off your high horse before bashing Calgor for his views.
This doesn't need to be stickied, its insulting, offers nothing useful that we dont already know and broaches a subject which is not as black and white as you make it sound. As such, it should be allowed to drop off the bottom of the list along with all other such threads.

its all a question of ethics, to which this unfortunately would be the wrong forum for. as an example, i couldnt care less about if someone jumped in and killed a dino if i had done 99% of the dmg to it. because i think it would be wrong to be so petty about something that isnt real. trades and such well yes, its nice when someone says "well il be a little late" but i dont really get all hateful and stuff unless it comes up to a couple of days worth of waiting, at which point i just ignore it forever and ever.


one thing that goes with ethics tho, what you think is ethically right might be really wrong for someone else. so while playing a game with players in id assume all but one continent of the world dont let it surprise you if you find someone you think is wrong(as in a ethical question). others will eventually think the same about you.

Oh my God this is a life-changing moment for me!

But seriously, Calgor is completely right. When I first read this when it was first posted, I was like "Hmm, this is pretty right, it should be stickied", but now, I realize that this IS stuff that parents should have taught people, and theres no reason for this, because its very doubtful that this will be a life-changing moment for anyone. It's mostly just common courtesy, which most people on this game dont have. Theres absolutely no reason to have stickied this, let alone post it.

Actually, I will be trying to convince you today that red is in fact green. Water and wetness is next week.

Point is, by sticking this to the forums, staff are effectively leaving this and saying it's an unofficial set of rules and regulations on how to behave and of etiquette which, in a role playing game, is something you cant do. If someone wants to play a complete evil git, then why should you stop them or suggest that they dont act like that?

Now as you correctly quoted Thunder, I did assess that the target audience is indeed limited although consider when it was written, a few years ago.

Also consider that every one of those points are suggestions and not a set of authoritarian commands. You're very tone itself, you even say that they are "little rules". Last I checked, you were not staff to decide what is a rule for people to follow and what isn't, so I suggest you change that. Having it stuck down though, seems to indicate that they somehow are becoming rules, much to the disapproval of some. People do not have to comply with them although the reason it was stickied is because people do use it. This is just a piece of trash though, one that needs to be unstuck and allowed to drift off the forums.

If it is as you said, up to players to listen to it or not then I dont suppose you will object to players will to have it unstuck and allowed to drift off the forums.

Credit to genezen, Hexis and willie for their wonderful support.

Edited on 05-02-2010 00:39

its just a sticky, calm down

is this thread an early April fools joke?

though a couple I do agree with

Edited on 05-02-2010 01:37

"And to whoever agrees with calgor, I hope you know that he would have complained about any thread."

Is that your only defense against his and others opinions? That he would complain about any thread?
Regardless of whether a person complains on 1 thread of 1000 threads, When a person has a valid point, He has a valid point. Stating that the person is known for complaining doesn't make his point any less valid.

I don't agree with Calgor often, But on rare occasions, He does make some good points. It would be stubborn and ignorant of me to assume his points are not valid, based solely on his previous rants. That would be "judging a book by its cover".

genezen, most (95%) of newbies never read anything.. just want to get into the gameplay. I doubt any new players or anyone who this applies to will actually change their ways.

Nice post.

Ok I just found this and HAD to laugh. I don't need any poncey post telling me how I "ought" to act in order to "avoid awkward situations". Its the awkward situations in life, be it virtual or real, that can be more insightfull than just coasting along conforming to what everyone or even just someone thinks we should all be like.

I'm fully with Calgor on this.. to heck and back with avoiding these situations, if I wanna be a git and have you wait at a TP whilst I amble along looking for Tulips, hey ho, its up to the individual I'm trading with to decide if they want to wait and just how long is acceptable.

I will ONLY concede the AC4 Dino point made. Due to the expense of fighting a Dino single handed, both in time and food, you SHOULD ask before joining in imo but hey, its not in the rules, so do what ya feel is right

i like it

Hi, I'm Ddiablos. Calgor wanted someone to argue with, but I agree with him for the most part.
This topic has seem to evolved into mannerisms that parents may teach their kids in real life. And as far as my experience goes, the only specific "game ethics" that parents teach are humility, honesty (cheating and such), and whatever not being a sore loser falls into. Other than these, we usually want to play to win and will have to do plenty of things to stomp on other players to ensure our victory. It the case of Syrnia I will define winning as ranking in the Highscores, but of course anyone may have a differing opinion.

Hi, I'm Ddiablos. Calgor wanted someone to argue with, but I agree with him for the most part.
This topic has seem to evolved into mannerisms that parents may teach their kids in real life. And as far as my experience goes, the only specific "game ethics" that parents teach are humility, honesty (cheating and such), and whatever not being a sore loser falls into. Other than these, we usually want to play to win and will have to do plenty of things to stomp on other players to ensure our victory.
It the case of Syrnia I will define winning as ranking in the Highscores, but of course anyone may have a differing opinion.In most cases, you want to benefit your character as fast as possible. Thus it seems perfectly human to do anything that is not specifically coined cheating or breaking the rules of the game. Of course this game has elements of team play, and if you rub a possible benefactor the wrong way, you may have caused more damage for yourself than good.
All in all, I am trying to make the point that most of the manners my mother has taught me for normal interaction do not apply in the case of a game. A stock of rules should not be applied to Syrnia specifically, unless with the intention of turning it into a new game with new rules.

i dont agree, its like when you grow up you are ever told to eat with your mouth shut or not. Same here you choose, but if you chew with ur mouth open everyone looks at you with a digusted air. Your choice

Btw: i chew with my mouth shut

I personally like this, but that is me, and I don't need to have it written to remember them.

As for other ppl, it would be nice, but I doubt that everybody would be the same.

Times have changed too, ppl that used to go by the code in arch 4, don't bother with it now.

I found out that you can't make ppl be honorable if they don't want to.

If people are so concerned about having the choice of evil why not make a thread for the Code of Indecency or such and such?

Also this thread may have been stickied so people later on could enjoy the lovely views and personalities of the people who took the time to respond to this thread :3

I'm new, I've enjoyed this, and I thank everyone who contributed to this thread :3
*lots of hugz*

Thunder Rocks ;)

Honour is not a rulebook, nor is it a religion. It is a code. The code of honour is something that some people choose to attempt to live up to, or their translation of its meaning. Human society once lived and breathed by such a code - which has been lost to us over the years. Yet, some still attempt to live up to it. If you disagree with such views, you can choose to post nothing on the subject.

Edited on 21-07-2010 04:27

"I don't agree with the premis that " guides " like this are preventing people from roleplaying bad guys though. You have to be reasonably smart to *be* an effective thief, murderer etc. You do not need to have any brains or roleplaying skills at all to be an idiot, a scammer, a rude pottymouth, careless, clueless, ignorant, irritating, whiny, annoying, unreasonably demanding or a general all round pain in the gluteus maximus.

Art imitates life."



Post of the year. Well done Greenlady

I am curious about something, assuming for just one moment that someone actually has not been introduced to these concepts. Because to be fair nothing oriented on social behavior is common sense. Is it really appropriate to bash this thread, irellavent of your approval of its content? All that does, if you disagree with the content is demonstrate your own need to pick a fight. If you didnt agree with the topic of the thread, then the choice was yours not to read it. The same goes for every player, it is their choice weather or not they read the actual content of this post or just pass on it.

If however, someone does read the content, and is either educated, or has their own moral judgment reaffirmed then this thread has served the purpose the author intended it for.

To Calgor and those who stand with him on this threads validity or necessity, why is it you need to sit here and pick apart the author's opinions. Or the opinions of those who have read and agreed upon the content.

To Thunder- I compliment you, while I may not agree with every point or even any of them, I respect what this thread was meant to try to do. Which was to make people look at their own behavior and think is this right. I also respect the clarity with which each point is identified separately, this has the side affect of making your points look like rules. But to be honest if they were separated any less clearly then identifying the whole point would be difficult.

For my own opinion, I would state that I enjoyed reading what the author believed to be a good guideline for moral judgment where it concerns peaceful play. I am curious as to weather anyone actually disagrees with any point the author made, or if those who object are just objecting to the premise of the thread and not the content. Finally, I would remind everyone that this is all about judgment, how you choose to make the decision. If you choose to abide by one of these points, or none of them or all of them, that is your judgment, and you are responsible for the result it has on your game play for better or worse.

That is my two cents
spiritflame

Two cents worth of "picking a fight" with those who disagree. Well done!

People are allowed opinions, even you being hypocritical

Is this some sort of joke?. This is stickied like it is some sort of rules, sorry but real life does not apply to an online "fantasy" game or the internet for that matter.

This should not be stickied

100% agrees with WoW.

No matter the intention the original post of Thunder's is benevolent and outwardly attempts to improve the disposition and positive character of this game and its player base. Most of us that read it already knew most of the points made, and many already observe them. It's a shame that most of the posts afterwards show how petty, argumentative and negative the community really is. If there's a hole to be picked, Syrnia teaches us how to pick it. This forum isn't a friendly place at all.

Also, we need another guide on how to argue properly because there are always a lot of words and very little point being made. A few of us just fight for fighting's sake.

i agree with WoW on this too.

Though I do agree with this rule:

"When trading, don't change the deal after an accord, or if you have to, make sure that the person you are trading with is ok with it. People can get touchy if a profitable deal has changed into something they don't need/want."

The others are just BS because those are real life morals which do not apply here.

I am one that believes when you are here real life and everything about real life should be left at the door.

Um, Syrnia stickies this because it will be helpful to other players. Plus, they aren't rules, they are guidlines.

i posted guidlines once and the page was immediately locked because it looked like i was making rules.

Well done people are now looking outside the box. These are just GUIDELINES not RULES on being a respectable gamer and not how to annoy other players within the SYRNIA world (not REAL LIFE).

Stop taking things so seriously and enjoy the game. As Calgor said;

"You seem to be missing the point of what an "MMORPG" is, the key three letters being RPG. An RPG is a Role Playing Game, and people can play whatever role they want whether it be nice or not, and your code of honour is almost discouraging them from following their own choice of role which might be to play that of a completely dishonest person."

Short and simple. Be who you want to be, honorable or not. As much as you try Syrnia will never be a perfect little community. As it is always growing, more people start playing the game and wanting to play how they want not how you want. The only rules players should follow is the Official ones. By doing this your more likely to shrug people off rather then invite them in. Try a better approach by helping them and not telling them how to act.

You would all do well to remember WoW's post;

"Real life does not apply to an online "fantasy" game or the internet for that matter."

Sure, I agree with some of these but considering the Syrnia developers made thieving other players and their shops possible then I think there is nothing wrong with it as its part of the game, A little rude but none the less as much a part of Syrnia as Cheese goes on Pizza.

By the way don't bother flaming me for this, checking this topic for replies would be a waste of my time.

Edited on 26-09-2010 15:05

Edited on 26-09-2010 15:09

thank you for posting this, kind sir.

Actually I like this being stickied.

I am a player that at least claims to be honorable. Not long ago I had a situation I was new to and even though some things are common sense I made a mistake there I would not have made if I knew that it was "frowned" upon. Actually it was so frowned upon that apologizing several times with honest intentions didnt make up for it. So I think a thread like this can be actually quite helpful for players who may be new to Syrnia and not know about all the mechanics going on here. Thank you to the author.

I liked all but this part

"- In Arch. Caves, sometimes people allow players to join fights against dinos towards the end. Never forget that you have to ask permission!! It is very irritating when you've been sweating to take down a monster with 200hp and when it has 10 hp someone joins and enjoys the spoils, and without asking too!!"


That is like asking someone if you can join and guess on a numb cheast in arch 2 and 4

not at all, chests don't fight back ;)

I don't give a rats behind if this is stickied. Not official rules and come on people its and rpg give me a break I will play within the rules. Not someone shoving their ethics down my throat.

Personally, I would consider it more impolite for someone to attempt to thieve me without asking permission (or at least explaining that they're doing it for fast travel, not to actually take my gold) than to have someone join a dino fight at the last minute and take the drop and experience without using much food.

Edit: Since this thread has been activated again, I just want to point out that I like most of the advice given by Thunder here, and while I still don't think a player who joined a dino fight right at the end and got the drop had any more obligation to give it away than a player who opened a strange chest on their second guess has an obligation to give away its contents to a player who has tried 90% of the combinations, that point in Thunder's post really no longer has validity, since you can't join a group fight anymore after the monster's health has gotten below a certain threshold.

Edited on 05-04-2012 11:07

I am unsure as to how this will be taken, but I shall say it anyways. I am a new player to Syrnia and, yes, I would say this set of "Guidelines" is very helpful. But that said, I know from past experiences that "freedom" is a big issue on MMORPG's like this one, and while Syrnia is not, and never will be, perfect it is still not a good idea to be one of those "Rude" people.Such actions can lead to clan wars, flaming, and other unpleasant action and reactions. There for, while I agree with WoW, if it came to a vote I would side with Thunder.

"Syrnian code of Morality"

sticky please?

Thunder, may I copy paste this in my clan forums for personal use? Rather like it

If nothing else... this Topic gives players an idea of which way they want to act in the game.... and some of the common problems that can be created by doing such things... so gives them more information before making their choice of whether to be a Honorable players with Morals or the other side and A just dont care... I will do whatever i want because i can attitude...

But... But i dont have a horse.... Dont want one either....

As if this ever gets used.

Sorry, but I laughed when I read this.

I for one am really curious as to the identity/s of the player/s that actually do everything on this list and continue to do so. I've never seen or heard of one.

No offence.

Wow. Really? These are merely suggestions, really, as it's been pointed out before. You don't HAVE to read it, you don't HAVE to follow them. It's there for those that WANT to. For the players that want to have a 'good' light about them. I don't understand the purpose of trying to... "shoot it down" like that.

What's the problem with the post? You feel that it's 'telling you what to do'? Then ignore it. Simple as that.

Who does it hurt if it's stickied? It's useful, helpful information to, as I said before, players that want to have a 'good' light about them.

Why is it that most of the Syrnia Forums are full of trolling and petty arguing? It's just outright ridiculous.

EDIT: I like the post, by the way.

Edited on 07-04-2012 22:50

Guess by your reply, you're not a fan of the post.

I haven't seen not one person that would cover all of those points in the initial post, sure, there'd be a couple that would come close, but as it was pointed out after, it is a game. I'm not having a go at anyone or anything that's written here. I just thought it was funny that people have posted on how everyone should behave, yet no-one does.

Some of the things that are stickied, like this post, need to be unstickied or updated to reflect current practice.

E.g. Most of the people I trade with walk to the tp and give an eta. Using a horse is just wasting time and getting no exp.

Dino fights? Really? This is an old fabrication of greedy players who want to keep all of the drops and exp. for themselves. The same players who demand permission to enter fights enter fights with no permission if it suits them. It's the same thing as players encouraging others to stop fighting during an invasion, so they'll capture... while they continue fighting and benefit from a lower timer. All of this is moot, of course, because the will of these same players was instituted into the game to disallow slower players from getting to a dino fight in time.

Thieving other players when you trade with them?! Thieving is a skill in this game and thieving other players is part of this skill.

I think the mark was missed on many points. I vote to unstickie this and many other posts as there is a whole screen of stickied posts, some with little relevance.

I agree with Greensky that this really shouldn't be stickied. Or at least have a moderator post on the original that it is not representative of any official position.

By having it stickied, it looks like the game staff supports this as some kind of official position. While I do agree with many of the ideas presented here, I also disagree with some, and know that these ideas are not incorporated into the Syrnian Rules.

My personal code of honor includes things like returning death drops whenever possible, not thieving anyone (you couldn't convince me to thieve you if you tried--feel free to make the attempt if you don't believe me ), and not attacking players in the Outlands (as if I could, even if I wanted to ). But I don't see any justification for making other players view these things as obligations for them to live up to as well; it is true that part of the reason I treat other players this way is because it is the way I would want to be treated, but if other players are expected to behave this way, I wouldn't appreciate it as much when they do--and they wouldn't appreciate as much that I have these expectations of myself.

I think the "code" does serve some purpose by potentially informing new players of the Syrnian social norms before they build a bad reputation for themselves without knowing they're doing it. Having these "norms" presented as the only way isn't really right but I think everyone who has logged more than 100 semi-active hours in this game knows you CAN break this code but recognizes the consequences.

I agree there are issues with it but still think it serves a purpose and should stay.

Edited on 31-01-2013 07:20

I think some of the points should be softened in tone but this remains a useful thread on good etiquette, particularly for newbies.

bumps

Edited on 09-02-2024 19:56