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Fuggle
[WoTo]
22-07-2010 13:27



No matter the intention the original post of Thunder's is benevolent and outwardly attempts to improve the disposition and positive character of this game and its player base. Most of us that read it already knew most of the points made, and many already observe them. It's a shame that most of the posts afterwards show how petty, argumentative and negative the community really is. If there's a hole to be picked, Syrnia teaches us how to pick it. This forum isn't a friendly place at all.

Also, we need another guide on how to argue properly because there are always a lot of words and very little point being made. A few of us just fight for fighting's sake.
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Drofbagin
[~OoS~]
22-07-2010 13:54


i agree with WoW on this too.
Sticker
[~KoS~]
26-08-2010 17:36


Um, Syrnia stickies this because it will be helpful to other players. Plus, they aren't rules, they are guidlines.
Drofbagin
[~OoS~]
26-08-2010 17:39


i posted guidlines once and the page was immediately locked because it looked like i was making rules.
Willis
26-09-2010 14:57



Well done people are now looking outside the box. These are just GUIDELINES not RULES on being a respectable gamer and not how to annoy other players within the SYRNIA world (not REAL LIFE).

Stop taking things so seriously and enjoy the game. As Calgor said;

"You seem to be missing the point of what an "MMORPG" is, the key three letters being RPG. An RPG is a Role Playing Game, and people can play whatever role they want whether it be nice or not, and your code of honour is almost discouraging them from following their own choice of role which might be to play that of a completely dishonest person."

Short and simple. Be who you want to be, honorable or not. As much as you try Syrnia will never be a perfect little community. As it is always growing, more people start playing the game and wanting to play how they want not how you want. The only rules players should follow is the Official ones. By doing this your more likely to shrug people off rather then invite them in. Try a better approach by helping them and not telling them how to act.

You would all do well to remember WoW's post;

"Real life does not apply to an online "fantasy" game or the internet for that matter."

Sure, I agree with some of these but considering the Syrnia developers made thieving other players and their shops possible then I think there is nothing wrong with it as its part of the game, A little rude but none the less as much a part of Syrnia as Cheese goes on Pizza.

By the way don't bother flaming me for this, checking this topic for replies would be a waste of my time.

Edited on 26-09-2010 15:05

Edited on 26-09-2010 15:09
Roarenson
[Order]
26-09-2010 17:10


thank you for posting this, kind sir.
Forgemaster Az
[Pog]
27-03-2011 19:05



Actually I like this being stickied.

I am a player that at least claims to be honorable. Not long ago I had a situation I was new to and even though some things are common sense I made a mistake there I would not have made if I knew that it was "frowned" upon. Actually it was so frowned upon that apologizing several times with honest intentions didnt make up for it. So I think a thread like this can be actually quite helpful for players who may be new to Syrnia and not know about all the mechanics going on here. Thank you to the author.
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Puffy
[Honor]
27-03-2011 22:07


I liked all but this part

"- In Arch. Caves, sometimes people allow players to join fights against dinos towards the end. Never forget that you have to ask permission!! It is very irritating when you've been sweating to take down a monster with 200hp and when it has 10 hp someone joins and enjoys the spoils, and without asking too!!"


That is like asking someone if you can join and guess on a numb cheast in arch 2 and 4
Angelo the Mage
[Cyber]
27-03-2011 23:30



not at all, chests don't fight back ;)
C4LV1N
[SWC]
28-03-2011 11:50


Personally, I would consider it more impolite for someone to attempt to thieve me without asking permission (or at least explaining that they're doing it for fast travel, not to actually take my gold) than to have someone join a dino fight at the last minute and take the drop and experience without using much food.

Edit: Since this thread has been activated again, I just want to point out that I like most of the advice given by Thunder here, and while I still don't think a player who joined a dino fight right at the end and got the drop had any more obligation to give it away than a player who opened a strange chest on their second guess has an obligation to give away its contents to a player who has tried 90% of the combinations, that point in Thunder's post really no longer has validity, since you can't join a group fight anymore after the monster's health has gotten below a certain threshold.

Edited on 05-04-2012 11:07
Kogamaru
05-04-2012 09:13


I am unsure as to how this will be taken, but I shall say it anyways. I am a new player to Syrnia and, yes, I would say this set of "Guidelines" is very helpful. But that said, I know from past experiences that "freedom" is a big issue on MMORPG's like this one, and while Syrnia is not, and never will be, perfect it is still not a good idea to be one of those "Rude" people.Such actions can lead to clan wars, flaming, and other unpleasant action and reactions. There for, while I agree with WoW, if it came to a vote I would side with Thunder.
The Couch YetiTemp
[~L~]
05-04-2012 10:06



"Syrnian code of Morality"

sticky please?

Thunder, may I copy paste this in my clan forums for personal use? Rather like it
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Blaidd_Drwg
[Dark]
05-04-2012 11:12



If nothing else... this Topic gives players an idea of which way they want to act in the game.... and some of the common problems that can be created by doing such things... so gives them more information before making their choice of whether to be a Honorable players with Morals or the other side and A just dont care... I will do whatever i want because i can attitude...
LagTemp
[JADED]
06-04-2012 19:42


But... But i dont have a horse.... Dont want one either....
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Ned Kelly
[Bang!]
07-04-2012 22:35


Sorry, but I laughed when I read this.

I for one am really curious as to the identity/s of the player/s that actually do everything on this list and continue to do so. I've never seen or heard of one.

No offence.
Zarn Grey
[=TR=]
07-04-2012 22:48



Wow. Really? These are merely suggestions, really, as it's been pointed out before. You don't HAVE to read it, you don't HAVE to follow them. It's there for those that WANT to. For the players that want to have a 'good' light about them. I don't understand the purpose of trying to... "shoot it down" like that.

What's the problem with the post? You feel that it's 'telling you what to do'? Then ignore it. Simple as that.

Who does it hurt if it's stickied? It's useful, helpful information to, as I said before, players that want to have a 'good' light about them.

Why is it that most of the Syrnia Forums are full of trolling and petty arguing? It's just outright ridiculous.

EDIT: I like the post, by the way.

Edited on 07-04-2012 22:50
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Ned Kelly
[Bang!]
07-04-2012 23:06


Guess by your reply, you're not a fan of the post.

I haven't seen not one person that would cover all of those points in the initial post, sure, there'd be a couple that would come close, but as it was pointed out after, it is a game. I'm not having a go at anyone or anything that's written here. I just thought it was funny that people have posted on how everyone should behave, yet no-one does.
Greensky
[Drunk]
31-01-2013 04:07



Some of the things that are stickied, like this post, need to be unstickied or updated to reflect current practice.

E.g. Most of the people I trade with walk to the tp and give an eta. Using a horse is just wasting time and getting no exp.

Dino fights? Really? This is an old fabrication of greedy players who want to keep all of the drops and exp. for themselves. The same players who demand permission to enter fights enter fights with no permission if it suits them. It's the same thing as players encouraging others to stop fighting during an invasion, so they'll capture... while they continue fighting and benefit from a lower timer. All of this is moot, of course, because the will of these same players was instituted into the game to disallow slower players from getting to a dino fight in time.

Thieving other players when you trade with them?! Thieving is a skill in this game and thieving other players is part of this skill.

I think the mark was missed on many points. I vote to unstickie this and many other posts as there is a whole screen of stickied posts, some with little relevance.
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C4LV1N
[SWC]
31-01-2013 06:39


I agree with Greensky that this really shouldn't be stickied. Or at least have a moderator post on the original that it is not representative of any official position.

By having it stickied, it looks like the game staff supports this as some kind of official position. While I do agree with many of the ideas presented here, I also disagree with some, and know that these ideas are not incorporated into the Syrnian Rules.

My personal code of honor includes things like returning death drops whenever possible, not thieving anyone (you couldn't convince me to thieve you if you tried--feel free to make the attempt if you don't believe me ), and not attacking players in the Outlands (as if I could, even if I wanted to ). But I don't see any justification for making other players view these things as obligations for them to live up to as well; it is true that part of the reason I treat other players this way is because it is the way I would want to be treated, but if other players are expected to behave this way, I wouldn't appreciate it as much when they do--and they wouldn't appreciate as much that I have these expectations of myself.
kagiscon
[]BoS[]
31-01-2013 07:19



I think the "code" does serve some purpose by potentially informing new players of the Syrnian social norms before they build a bad reputation for themselves without knowing they're doing it. Having these "norms" presented as the only way isn't really right but I think everyone who has logged more than 100 semi-active hours in this game knows you CAN break this code but recognizes the consequences.

I agree there are issues with it but still think it serves a purpose and should stay.

Edited on 31-01-2013 07:20
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Karisade
[-DRS-]
31-01-2013 08:20



I think some of the points should be softened in tone but this remains a useful thread on good etiquette, particularly for newbies.
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