Orange
18-10-2010 03:22
| recommendations are listed in the original post
ive killed all monsters and completed all quests. the result of this combat experience das led to the recommendations in this thread. the specfic types of armour arent listed because each of the recommendations arent specifically dependant on weapons, armour or stats, they are simply recommendations of overall experience and estimations for average exp gains and HP usage
my personal use of weapons, armour and stats have no direct bearing on the recommendations given because ive tested different weapons, armour and stats for each monster, with an estimation for combat related quest monsters based on knowledge gained from fighting similar level monsters
again, and for the final time as this is going in circles, you can either choose to use these recommendations or choose not to
Edited on 18-10-2010 03:24
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esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 03:25
| "my personal use of weapons, armour and stats have no direct bearing on the recommendations given because ive tested different weapons, armour and stats for each monster, with an estimation for combat quest based on knowledge gained from fighting similar level monsters
again, and for the final time as this is going in circles, you can either choose to use these recommendations or choose not to"
Again, you're the only one continuing the circle by not giving me an actual recommendation. I don't understand why you can't tell me what you used to complete this quest and whether you think that was a good setup. It would have ended this discussion 4 posts ago.
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
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Orange
18-10-2010 03:32
| as this thread is purely for reference using combat recommedations, and not for questions about which weapons, armour and stats i have used, and do use, you can send any questions about my personal training methods directly to me using the game message system
You are now planting 400 Orange seeds.
You have married Redhood !
Redhood killed you at The Outlands 92.
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esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 03:35
| You have me on ignore in the game. At least, you never answer me there... And MM told me to ask in this thread.
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
Orange
18-10-2010 03:36
| the ignore option is only related to the chat channels, not game messages
Edited on 18-10-2010 03:37
You are now planting 400 Orange seeds.
You have married Redhood !
Redhood killed you at The Outlands 92.
<-- And they die an equal death - the idler and the man of mighty deeds. |
esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 03:38
| Nope, if someone has you on ignore, they can't see messages from you either.
From the function itself: "This applies to the chat and messages, however this does not affect chat history."
Edited on 18-10-2010 03:40
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
Orange
18-10-2010 03:44
| youre right about the ignore option, my mistake
ive never had you on ignore though, i just ignore your whispers ;) you can still send me a game message if you have a question related to this thread, and send me a game message for information about my personal training methods as the latter doesnt belong here
You are now planting 400 Orange seeds.
You have married Redhood !
Redhood killed you at The Outlands 92.
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esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 04:31
| Orange: "you can send any questions about my personal training methods directly to me using the game message system"
I was right, I am on his "ignore" and he won't answer my question.
So can someone else please give me an actual recommendation on a setup to kill Sekhmet? If you did it at CL 85, can you tell me what levels you had for attack, strength, and defense?
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
Hazgod
[-TL-]
18-10-2010 04:35
| How about you get syriet axe, 10 more strength levels then give it a go. What's so difficult about that? |
esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 04:42
| I'll only have level 84 CL then Hazgod, Orange would disagree with you! But thank you for your recommendation of 96 attack, 80 str, 40 def, 60 health (69 HP). I wish the Guides were this helpful.
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
VipersLFC
[Snake]
18-10-2010 10:10
| "I'll only have level 84 CL then Hazgod, Orange would disagree with you! "
No he would not. This whole question in my eyes has not been about you completing the quest but about you trying to score points against guides. Most likely because you are still mad about getting muted over that pickaxe as a weapon thing. Simple recommendation, get over it.
They are helpful, you are just being your usual nitpicking self. Is easy for anyone else to see that any CL85 setup that has above 40 hp, will be able to kill it. As most do not do what you try to point out, all health, all defence. Anyone who does combat knows that, even you. Again just trying to nitpick.
Going on and on about stats, the stat that is most important. Having 40 hp so you do not die.
With enough food.
Is a recommendation not that you HAVE to have CL85 in order to complete it.
What is it about the word recommendation you are having trouble with?
Edited on 18-10-2010 10:28
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esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 17:06
| Viperslfc: "This whole question in my eyes has not been about you completing the quest but about you trying to score points against guides. Most likely because you are still mad about getting muted over that pickaxe as a weapon thing."
This has nothing to do with that pickaxe mute. I didn't report MM in chat for just repeating my question back to me 3 times, cause giving 0 information to players isn't exactly giving incorrect information to players, so that rule wouldn't apply.
And as it has been pointed out, someone could just have level 1 attack/strength/defense and level 420 health to get level 85 combat, and while they will survive the max hits, it would take them hours, if not days or weeks, depending on their woodcutting/mining/smithing levels, to kill it. I was simply asking for a level 85 combat setup that people HAVE used to kill the monster in a reasonable amount of time with a reasonable amount of food use. Orange got the number 85 from somewhere, I was just asking from where. Everyone knows that CL = att/3 + def/3 + str/3 + health/5, and he gave us CL and health, which still leaves thousands of possibilities for attack, defense, and strength levels. I was asking for people's recommendation on those.
And the fact that it took so long to get a recommendation is appalling, especially since 3 guides were involved. Although at least 2 of those guides dislike me, so I guess I should have just asked someone else to ask the question for me, just like I've started getting others to report rulebreaking to the mods for me. Yay for biased staff members.
Thanks again, Hazgod. .gif)
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
18-10-2010 17:39
| Yea, I'm forced to agree with esnow--CL 85 doesn't mean anything. What's so hard about just answering the bloody question with "You need Attack # and at least HP #," which would have sufficiently answered esnow's question, without needing to go on for a page about it? |
VipersLFC
[Snake]
18-10-2010 17:47
| Esnow was so into arguing mode she actually ignored an answer given to her by a guide to her own question.
From Prome
" I did it with a CL of 90+, with over 80 HP. I used a Platina axe, and wore full gold armor. Those were choices that I made. You can do as you wish, as you have free will in this game."
And as I said which you ignored. Your case of having only 420 health, is what you always do try use extremes to validate your silly points. No one is going to do that , most players train combat to be balanced except attack.
Simple nitpicking. Nothing to do with this. Have fun. Will not bother replying again.
And Sirtheta, if you watch forums. Had someone just said how much attack and hp needed. She then would have nitpicked over defence and strength levels. Some players just like to argue.
Soon as an answer came from a none guide she was happy with it. Again this is an issue more between her and guides which her last reply proves.
Edited on 18-10-2010 18:01
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NateHarper
[~SaS~]
18-10-2010 17:51
| Well I'm not cl 85 and I killed that thing when anasco came out so probably like cl 70. It doesn't hit hard aslong as you have the torch. If you don't have the torch then expect to die lol.. I think Krazy survived it just about but he still took huge hits at his cl. Esnow you can kill it easily ;)
Edit: as for what gear I had then at a decent guess I would have been the same medium gold armour I wear now and a gold axe.
Edited on 18-10-2010 17:54
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SirTheta
[MAAN]
18-10-2010 18:39
| Perhaps Viper, but then it would have been esnow who was being an obstinate fool, rather than Orange.
Edit - I do watch forums btw  And made sure to read this whole convo all the way through .gif)
Edited on 18-10-2010 18:39 |
esnow
[Drunk]
18-10-2010 18:48
| Hmm, you're right, Viperslfc, I was so steaming from Orange saying I could message him and then getting a message reply that he isn't going to help me, that I just read the first paragraph of Prometheus and didn't see that he had answered my question.
I'm sorry, Prometheus.
Still, 2/3 Guides were quite unhelpful, and those were the 2 Guides I said are biased against me in my previous post. So I guess I was right
Thanks Prometheus, Hazgod, and NateHarper.
Edited on 18-10-2010 18:50
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
tiff
[LLL]
19-10-2010 05:31
| I'm surprised a player that has been around as long as you Esnow needs detailed instructions how to fight a creature. I've been impressed with how the guides help without being overbearing and telling people what they "must" do or the "one right way"... but it sounds like you want to check your brain and let someone else tell you how to play.
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esnow
[Drunk]
19-10-2010 15:31
| tiff : "I've been impressed with how the guides help without being overbearing and telling people what they "must" do or the "one right way""
Actually, in some cases, you're not allowed to give new players alternatives to choose from, under punishment of a mute. For example, the Guides never tell people that you can get venomous fangs from Berian and Thick Jungle as well. The "one right way" to do that quest is to get one from Lemo or buy one. And don't get me started on the syriet pickaxe, as in fact, it was a Guide whose report got me muted for saying someone can use it as a weapon. Nope, the Guides like the plain and simple bronze longsword at level 1 attack, "the one right way".
As far as training the combat skill itself goes, I fought gnomes till I got the level for a koban axe and lestro told me to go fight at Sorer. Then when I got the gold axe, he transported my stuff for my across the OL and set me up to fight Ogres. And that's where I've been fighting since then. The time I disobeyed him and fought at Berian, I died :o So yeah... That's why I was asking for a recommendation here, cause lestro quit, and I thought the Guides would be just as helpful, but I guess not in all cases.
[To: excessum]04:35 esnow[Drunk]: You had a bit less crop than expected ! You found 75 less Onion than you planned to harvest.
[W]04:35 Excessum[Fangz]: Mods are trying to kill you. |
Ihit Youdie
[~ADV~]
29-03-2011 23:04
| The Rorghark Bonebreaker struck at you and hit 14 damage.
highest ive ever seen or heard of.
EDIT: arguing with esnow is pointless,because she is simply ignorant and bored,which we can see as she has nothing better to do then try to destroy an extremely helpful post with comments that have already been answered or are not relevant.
Edited on 29-03-2011 23:42 |
c0ura6e
[1337]
26-05-2011 04:31
| nice post
keep it up! |
Ozymandias
[Zen]
12-07-2011 04:26
| I'm confused, there's two sets of dinos. One recommends 55 hp vs a honu and one recommends 50. Can it really hit above 50?
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Orange
12-07-2011 05:10
| Sorry for the confusion, blasted typos lol
Ive edited it to state a recommended minimum of 55hp when fighting a Honurus, as was intended. Ive personally been hit for 44 damage by a Honurus, and im confident that is not its max hit. While 50hp may be enough to avoid being killed in one hit, 55hp+ is what i would recommend to be fairly safe.
Happy dino hunting! ;)
(Honurus has rubbish drops though *shakes fist*)
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Karisade
[-DRS-]
12-07-2011 05:40
| A universally useful thread - every single player should discover wisdom relevant to their training level here (I certainly did). Nice one!
The only thing I'm not sure about is your gap of 5 CLs between Berian and Ogre Town. I'm at CL27, so I use both, and find them almost equally challenging.
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Lamb
[Pond]
12-07-2011 06:08
| I have 50hp and have fought waras, honus and stemos But I believe stemos can hit above 50 so I guess I'm lucky
[3]19:19 lestro[Pond]: eek, it's lamb *hides*
[3]19:20 lestro[Pond]: please no more beatings *cowers in corner*
Evert(114) attacked Lamb, and did 1 damage. Lamb had 47 HP left. |
