Warrior on Wheels
[Cloud]
26-09-2009 22:43
| A perfect solution to this would be to not let anyone drop anything from there inventory in the OL accept when they get attacked and die. |
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Hazgod
26-09-2009 22:45
| The limit I proposed would be a limit in the number of items displayed at once rather than the number of items you're actually allowed to drop.
I'll give a proper example that everyone can follow.
Limit of 2 items shown (so I don't have to write as much  )
Say I drop 1 of each bronze armour.
Anyone coming through will see bronze helm and shield.
Someone picks up the helm. The item list now shows bronze shield and plate.
Someone picks up the plate. Item list now shows bronze shield and axe.
All items are at the location, but only a certain number get shown at once. Also note that the same items get shown for all players, so you don't see burnts while I run past and see platina ore etc.
This allows players to set traps with whatever items they want without causing lag to everyone else.
Preventing people from dropping anything completely is not an option because there are good reasons to drop stuff in the OL, like miners dropping ores any PKers setting traps
Edited on 26-09-2009 22:47 |
NateHarper
[~SaS~]
26-09-2009 22:47
| no, they would definitely have to move some atleast ;) thats just how the OL works as standard. They couldnt just camp there for say half hour at a time waiting for names.
a few minutes at a time would be ok. But even still names dont show as quickly when your stood still. obviously they still show quicker than it takes that kind of lag to pass tho.
Edit for Hazgod below: You've obviously not done enough mining out there
Edited on 26-09-2009 22:49 |
Hazgod
26-09-2009 22:48
| It updates pretty fast when you're sitting still otherwise miners would be screwed |
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 22:51
| Nate they can move.. but it only takes maybe 10 seconds for the lag to stop when they move back.. so it doesnt affect them at all.. |
Tazz
[Cyber]
26-09-2009 22:51
| What happens if you continuously click your own name in the menu? Does that update the list? It's always either been too crowded or not crowded enough for me to check.
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 22:54
| i wonder tazz good point.. :o |
Warrior on Wheels
[Cloud]
26-09-2009 22:56
| "Preventing people from dropping anything completely is not an option because there are good reasons to drop stuff in the OL, like miners dropping ores any PKers setting traps"
hazgod thats not a valid reason |
Hazgod
26-09-2009 22:56
| It constantly refreshes in the OL |
Tazz
[Cyber]
26-09-2009 23:02
| Not constantly hazgod, when i'm doing a skill out there, people have got 2 hits on me before they've appeared in the list
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
Calydor
[Pond]
26-09-2009 23:04
| Miners dropping ores would be the #1 main reason not to completely remove the drop option in the OL, actually. |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
26-09-2009 23:04
| ""Preventing people from dropping anything completely is not an option because there are good reasons to drop stuff in the OL, like miners dropping ores any PKers setting traps"
hazgod thats not a valid reason "
Eh? Why not? That's got to be the #1 reason to do so.. |
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 23:06
| platina spot in ol might not be needed anymore with this new island coming |
Warrior on Wheels
[Cloud]
26-09-2009 23:08
| "Eh? Why not? That's got to be the #1 reason to do so.."
Because you can easily run to port senyn and then go to eully to trade the ore and if you can't you shouldn't be there in the first place and pker's don't need to set traps they can walk around and search for players.
Edited on 26-09-2009 23:09 |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
26-09-2009 23:08
| Even if there is a Platina Mine on the new island, the fact that there are still Platina Mines in the OL means that there will be miners mining there.
"Because you can easily run to port senyn and then go to eully to trade the ore and if you can't you shouldn't be there in the first place and pker's don't need to set traps they can walk around and search for players."
For every single ore? What a hassle & waste of time. Everyone has the right to go into the OL, don't give me that Brain Storm. & so now we'll take away from PK'ers? How would you react if people above level 40 Woodcutting weren't allowed to cut at Isri or Bonewood anymore?
Edited on 26-09-2009 23:11
Moderator edit:
Edited inappropriate term. |
Hazgod
26-09-2009 23:08
| That's weird, mine was refreshing every second at least |
Tazz
[Cyber]
26-09-2009 23:19
| Maybe it refreshes quicker if you have a lower ping? As many times i've been fighting, and losing HP without even seeing anyone, so i assume they have a lower ping. But back to the bug, Players with video evidence proving they are purposley lagging people should be punished, or whatever happens to bug abusers.
If you complain they just didnt want the drop, then why are they Pk'ing? It's the only reason i can see for Pk'ing, the items.
Edited on 26-09-2009 23:21
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
Warrior on Wheels
[Cloud]
26-09-2009 23:21
| "For every single ore? What a hassle & waste of time. Everyone has the right to go into the OL, don't give me that brain storm. & so now we'll take away from PK'ers? How would you react if people above level 40 Woodcutting weren't allowed to cut at Isri or Bonewood anymore?"
when a player needs to run away they should be able to run to port senyn and drop it in a house or trade it and if you aren't able to run away to port senyn from OL 78 or 79 then you shouldn't be in the OL in the first place, even if you have 100 ore on you.
Thats not taking away from pker's, its making the OL a whole lot more fun
I am getting the picture that you just like to argue SirTheta.
Edited on 26-09-2009 23:22
Moderator edit:
word edit. |
Tess
26-09-2009 23:27
| Warrior on Wheels - As an experienced OL miner, it is far more dangerous to run from the mining spot to Ogre or Eully to trade than to just drop it on the ground for your guard to pick up.
I'd rather not see that option disabled because it'd be far more time consuming and more risky than it already is to mine out there.
"A woman is like a tea bag, you can not tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water." |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
26-09-2009 23:28
| when a player needs to run away they should be able to run to port senyn and drop it in a house or trade it and if you aren't able to run away to port senyn from OL 78 or 79 then you shouldn't be in the OL in the first place, even if you have 100 ore on you.
That's just ridiculous, why shouldn't I be able to just drop the ore off to my big, bad, high CL protector, rather than wasting all that time running back to Senyn and wasting 50 gold to get back? Why should it be even more risky then it already is?
"Thats not taking away from pker's, its making the OL a whole lot more fun"
It's taking away from the PK'ers, Miners and probably other groups, making the OL less fun.
"I am getting the picture that you just like to argue SirTheta."
Perhaps.
Edited on 26-09-2009 23:28 |
KoolKitty
[~SaS~]
26-09-2009 23:30
| If something as stupid as no drops in the OL gets passed, then there should be no drop trades anywhere, cause next ppl in arch 4 will complain of drops lagging while fighting the dinnos
Dark,dreary stalks the storming rain that taunts of midnight dreams again will to spin in vain out of control this domain simple passion as yet profane imagery calls into refrain such stabbing polished words pain beneath a brooding moon's disdain. |
Hazgod
26-09-2009 23:34
| So you either have to carry a boat with you or pay 50gp to get back every time PLUS the travel time? No. That makes no sense. When I go to mine there I go with a set of armour, a weapon and a pickaxe. I'm not going to carry around a 3k boat and risk losing that. Simple fix, limit the number of items displayed at once to a number that doesn't cause lag. All other arguments are no longer relevant.
Drop 1 of every item in the game? Only x get shown.
Don't want to pick up the items after you kill someone? Fine, only x get shown.
Have someone come into the OL to suicide and drop loads of items? Waste of their time because only x get shown.
Anything else you can think of that can be done to cause other players to lag by having too many items in on the ground? No, because all are solved by only showing a certain number of items! Just want to run through? Don't get greedy and stop to pick up items |
NateHarper
[~SaS~]
26-09-2009 23:46
| "If you complain they just didnt want the drop, then why are they Pk'ing? It's the only reason i can see for Pk'ing, the items."
Player Killing for many, myself included, is all about the Kill. Getting the better of another player out there is the fun of PK'ing IMO. Any drops which occur afterwards are simply a bonus, and i know that there are several who are quite happy to return drops, or part of. Viper is one that springs to mind.
Ive let low players come back out to collect thier gear still laying where it fell from them, and im sure many others have also. hardly worth a punishment...
Hazgod, it will refresh quite quickly for a few minutes, but if you stay still long enough it will stop refreshing completely ;) its still likely you will get hit before seeing a name appear if their ping is low, even if yours is also. |
Tazz
[Cyber]
26-09-2009 23:51
| Well, in that case to avoid punishment, pick them up and Drop the items in OCE1. .gif)
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 23:55
| wont that cause lag coming in and out of cave then? and thats a bad thing too  |
