DreadedTroll
[~lll~]
27-09-2009 16:25
| Wyks, I believe that coding is definitely the way to fix this for good and I think Hazgod has provided at least a temporary idea that would work.
However, in my opinion it would make a mockery of even having bug abuse rules if the offenders are not punished. We may as well delete section 4 altogether in that eventuality.
I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
Frank Lloyd Wright (1869 - 1959) |
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ScareGilly
[Snake]
27-09-2009 16:38
| With Hazgod's solution it means death drop thieves could make stealing the best part of the death drop easier. |
Tazz
[Cyber]
27-09-2009 16:42
| So if there are 10 types of burnts on the floor, and someone suicides on me, I wont be able to see the drop, wont know anyone has died, and miss out on a potential great drop? That would suck.
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
Rarakiid
[*I*C*]
27-09-2009 16:59
| It wouldnt have to resort to things like this if players would just play the game by the rules.. but then again even if you break a rule now adays depending on who you are depends on the punishment
18:46 inferior [Bowie]:so the island is your private jail/laboratory/concentration camp ? :D
**bow down to me** |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
27-09-2009 17:08
| With Hazgod's solution it means death drop thieves could make stealing the best part of the death drop easier.
What the.. are you serious.. go read Hazgod's post again.
So if there are 10 types of burnts on the floor, and someone suicides on me, I wont be able to see the drop, wont know anyone has died, and miss out on a potential great drop? That would suck.
You can't see Burnts?
Jeffreyj - My pins is like 350ms or so. Doesn't matter, your point is invalid because you obviously can't think. I can walk through the OL fine normally, yet when I happen upon hundreds of items sitting on the ground, I lag? O, nope, it's not because of the items, it's because of your ping! .gif) Seriously? |
esnow
[C.D.C]
27-09-2009 17:12
| My ping is 137ms, the two times I went through the pile of items, one time I was down to 1 hp, the other time I was undetected completely. The PKer is lagged as well it seems, and names don't appear instantly, so there is some luck involved.
[To: orange]18:41 esnow: Get in my belly! |
ScareGilly
[Snake]
27-09-2009 17:17
| SirTheta, if the PKer is clicking on the top item instead of the second item , if someone comes along and starts clicking the 2nd item , they will get drops the PKer doesn't even know were there. |
DreadedTroll
[~lll~]
27-09-2009 17:19
| Well, you have to ask yourself what is worse in this situation. Would you rather see a slightly changed drop box or the OLs destroyed beyond use?
Also, just click the last item showing if that's your worry.
I believe in God, only I spell it Nature.
Frank Lloyd Wright (1869 - 1959) |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
27-09-2009 17:20
| And how is that any different from picking up items in the OL normally? |
Tazz
[Cyber]
27-09-2009 17:20
| You can't see Burnts?
So what if a Player carrying a few hundered thousand burnts dies there, They'll be worth something, But if i cant see them, then we miss out on a good drop again..
Tazz struck and dealt 20 damage to the Waranerus >:)
2009-08-31 01:45:44 Tazz(46) did 5 damage to PvP. PvP had 103 HP left. >:)
2009-02-24 23:58:27 Tazz-99 killed Orange |
MiddleGA
[Solus]
27-09-2009 17:26
| re: "Would you rather see a slightly changed drop box or the OLs destroyed beyond use"
Probably wouldn't like my answer to that one. |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
27-09-2009 17:29
| Then you pick up a few burnts and see if anything is beyond them, how hard is it? |
Ihit Youdie
27-09-2009 17:33
| Simple, Let them only drop a maximum of 5 items, this could include food/pick/ore/gems for the miners.. would stop lag..
however of you kill someone everything shows, if you leave it on the ground for more then 5 minutes it disapears. |
Warrior on Wheels
[Cloud]
27-09-2009 17:35
| how about we stop arguing this because the mods have made their decision and its not worth arguing anymore. |
Become
[JADED]
27-09-2009 20:24
| I agree with wyks 100% get m2h in to change the code so death drops go to a players inventory and you cant drop in the Ol Simple!
"Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them." |
Calydor
[Pond]
27-09-2009 20:37
| The fact that Become thinks disabling drops is a good idea shows what a phenomenally bad idea it is. |
Become
[JADED]
27-09-2009 20:39
| Move to ogre cave enterance do your dropping there!
"Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them." |
HeartOfTheSun
27-09-2009 20:47
| Having the drops go into the killer's inventory and disabling drops isn't actually a bad idea. The only people who would complain about it are miners who go out there for rare ores, but they are usually protected by fighters anyway, and if they're really worried they can go back and house the ores every few.
Fly with me into the sun and watch as time begins to burn. |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
27-09-2009 21:07
| The fact that Become thinks disabling drops is a good idea shows what a phenomenally bad idea it is.
Exactly 
Having the drops go into the killer's inventory and disabling drops isn't actually a bad idea. The only people who would complain about it are miners who go out there for rare ores, but they are usually protected by fighters anyway, and if they're really worried they can go back and house the ores every few.
I thought we already went over this. There's a much better solution out there then basically handing death drops to a PK'er (or vulture) and penalizing miners.
Edited on 27-09-2009 21:07 |
HeartOfTheSun
27-09-2009 21:08
| Maybe there is, but I'm not reading through 6 pages to find it and comment on it.
Fly with me into the sun and watch as time begins to burn. |
Jop
[~X~]
27-09-2009 21:30
| "2. If one of these bugs allows you to gain an unfair advantage over other players, do not exploit it. Exploitation of these problems will result in loss of any experience and/or items along with being jailed or frozen."
>> The current Pirate Captain has -17,308 Negative fame! <<
50 Critical hit: You struck and dealt 50 damage to the Sorer queen. 0/20 |
SDL
27-09-2009 21:46
| (Quoted Moderator text used to be here before they removed it because it made them look bad.)
So what if those doing it are Moderators themselves? Let's not pretend for a moment that that isn't a real possibility. Given the very understated Moderator reaction, it seems highly likely that this is the case.
In response to Moderators edit:
So you say Moderator, but while you remain anonymous I don't believe a word of it. After all, you could have been doing it yourself and we wouldn't know.
Please do not edit my posts unless they are breaking the rules. If you have something to say show some integrity and use your own name. That way we'd be more likely to believe you.
Edited on 27-09-2009 22:18
Edited on 27-09-2009 22:28
Moderator edit:
"So what if those doing it are Moderators themselves?" Incorrect.
[2] 06:35 Marishka[~X~]: damn sweet why you gotta have your pants on so tight :( |
SirTheta
[MAAN]
27-09-2009 21:54
| "original post stated point #1 that this was unfair advantage. I guess they have determined that the offending parties are too "elite" to be propery disposed."
Stated it was "unfair" and "undesirable behavior". The way I read it, advantage isn't implied. |
Doritos4u
[AW]
27-09-2009 21:54
| Jop: Mods won't change their mind. You would get better results if the community held embargo's on the "Clan" that were involved and even then all the clan leaders could do is kick the member out. So they are going to get away with it.
I don't beleive for a second that some of them were not aware of the lag it was causing. Please. Even after a few days of it being exploited and world chat talking about it. The players involved that have been named in previous posts are active posters in World Chat, so they knew. I was online alot when it was happening and I noticed those players were silent in world chat and silent on the forums while it was happening.
Where i come from they call that a guilty conscience.
And the game, OL's, shouldn't have to be changed to address the bug, lag, problem that was being capatilized on by a few members. If the MODS had done what they should have done in the first place and sent a clear message to those players, with a punishment, this "problem" would be a non-issue and a simple addition to the rules about lagging players could have been added.
Edited on 27-09-2009 22:01 |
Roen
[Wild]
27-09-2009 22:17
| "Moderator edit:
"So what if those doing it are Moderators themselves?" Incorrect."
Unless a mod has access to logs and have checked all the moderator's activity and seen if they dropped items in the OLs, then the above quote can not be 100% certain.
I'm not accusing the moderators of abusing the system, but neither am i saying they can say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are innocent without supporting evidence.
EDIT: Are moderators not leaving a time stamp on their edits anymore, or are they merely forgetting? Many edits here seem to be missing timestamps, not sure about elsewhere.
Edited on 27-09-2009 22:19
Prove who you are, show others what it is to do right by you, and don't be ashamed in doing so. You'll feel better about yourself knowing who you are and being certain of what you stand for. |
