St0rmz_
[*TF*]
30-03-2025 21:24
| I have recently been spending quite alot of time down here and have came up with some ideas that would improve the Quality Of Life down in AC5.
First of all I would like to propose that the Dragon fights are brought in to the new style of group fighting (like the bosses) this is way more fairer. Its not just the case of last hit gets the drop which is crap...
In addition to this i would recommend removing the bot check during dragon fights and boss fights. Its painful enough to be counting down waiting for your hit, but then to get a bot check on timer reset, than have to wait a 10 second timer again until you can hit.
Additionally "Stalling" on a bot check is possible. I think this should not be the case, you have committed to a fight, knowing the time it will or could take, therefore there is no need to have a bot check in amongst it. Just get a bot check after the fight and fight screen (so you can see results) simples!
To elaborate on this a bit more Currently, its fastest finger first for Ores and last one to hit the dragon (killing blow) for the dragon fight loot.
[B]99.99% of syrnians[/B], dont just dislike AC5 Ore spawns and how you get them..
But:
Hate,
Despise,
Loathe,
and Detest,
The way the spawns are given to "The Fastest Finger First". Some one can casually sit there and wait for all the gamans to be killed and just click on the town menu to refresh the page waiting for the gaman fight link to turn to the Ore Mine link and then click on it.
The person who is fighting the last gaman is at a severe disadvantage as they have to refresh 2 screens...the final fight screen then the home screen.
With the ores getting locked / mined before you can even see the opportunity of chance...
Personally I like the Ac6 mechanic how the ores could spawn anywhere in AC6 (albeit there is 50 locations in AC6, this mechanic could be used in the 13 locations of Ac5.) I would wager this would be a more welcomed replacement compared to the current mechanic.
I have seen:
Platina Ores Max of 20 spawned,
Syriet Ores Max of 10 Spawned,
Obsidian Ores Max of 5 Spawned,
Puranium Ores Max of 4 Spawned,
Titanium Ores Max of 2 Spawned.
Using the above figures, if there is a double spawn of titanium, then that means 1 ore could be at 5.12 and the other ore could be at 5.1 complete opposite ends of the map.
Lkewise, there could be upto 4 individual pura spawns, upto 5 individual Obsidian spawns, Syriet and platina can be grouped in 3's, 4's, 5's or so?
[Idea only but im sure you coding gurus can balance it more properly]
But the current method is simply deflating....
Silly Example:
There was a double titanium spawn just last night, 6 Puranium Gamans blocked the Ore, i killed 4 of them and when i returned to the home screen to mine, both ores were already locked... incredibly frustrating...
The spawn rates are way too slow for the activity now.
We currently have AC5 spawns chance every :05,:20,:35,:50 past each hour. However ive been down here and seen over 4 and nearly 5 hours have gone by with not a single spawn. I dont know how the spawns are worked out, however i think the "NO SPAWN" chance needs drastically reduced.
There has been a number of people down here and lets be realistic Ac5 was brought in way back in 2012, when everyone was "babies" compared to now... A full spawn cycle of Ores and Dragons can be cleared with then nothing for hours.
Surely this needs to be addressed?
Further Analysis:
Top 100 Mining back in 2012 (November)
Min: 100
Max: 223
Average: 115.24
Top 100 Mining Currently:
Min: 154
Max: 382
Average: 212.53
Combat Level:
Top 100 2012:
Min: 96
Max: 172
Average: 116.82
Top 100 Current:
Min: 154
Max: 278
Average: 177.63
Quik maffs shows a significant jump in the last 13 years (obviously)
This content is not and has not scaled with the growth of Syrnians.
Additionally isnt it about time we have some sort of Dragon Weapon now? It makes total sense to have one since we have the suit and is long overdue / awaited by players.
TLDR:
-Opt to change AC5 Spawns to AC6 mechanic (removing fastest finger first).
-Opt to change Dragon fights to the boss fighting method. (or something very similar).
-Opt to change Spawns more frequently as No Spawns have been witnessed upto nearly 5 hours at a time. (Due to increased players levels from 2012).
-Opt to Remove Botchecks whilst fighting Dragons (and bosses).
-Opt so that if you log out during a Dragon fight, you are returned to the town and unable to join again.
-Opt to view current Dragon HP. (For example if some one is in a dragon fight it shows the HP full all the time at the town rather than adjusting in real time, until the "there is a powerful fight ongoing and cannot be joined" text shows.
-Opt to Finally get a dragon Weapon ! (Pretty please).
Edited on 04-04-2025 15:11
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Goosh
[TLO]
30-03-2025 22:01
| I agree in every single aspect of this.
Fighting dragons is currently wildly worse than fighting any of the modern bosses. Guaranteeing one drop per person is probably better than exactly how it's set for bossing. One person getting two dragon parts and the other getting nothing will hurt even more than it currently does.
Fighting over ores by whoever has the fastest connection/mouse/reaction time is probably the worst mechanic in the entire game. Randomly spawning ores throughout the cave would make it tougher to tell when dragons and ores spawn, but would make it much fairer overall for competing for ores.
Additionally, syriet and obby need to be removed entirely from AC6.
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G Bob
[TLO]
30-03-2025 22:24
| great thread Stormy.
Well said.
+ 1 from me
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Durins_Bane
[Moria]
30-03-2025 22:32
| No.
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Ignis Vi
[TLO]
30-03-2025 22:38
| Well written sentiment. I agree with everything. 
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JFizzle
[Arch]
30-03-2025 23:29
| I like everything you've said as well. Maybe just add the idea of random spawn locations to the current system. Then you have both ways to play AC5.
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TermaMatrix
[Corps]
30-03-2025 23:36
| I totally agree with everything in this post! Well said St0rmz_
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[O.G.]
31-03-2025 00:02
| Yes!
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chadRN
[~FoS~]
31-03-2025 00:02
| I don't mind the last hit on dragon, as the dragon doesn't have as many drops as the bosses do. However, the bot check is very annoying. Especially, if you were supposed to get the last hit and bam... bot check... not yours anymore. All the other stuff though... most definitely. Put it right up there with stupid scroll need changing. There is no way my rng is that much worse then pretty much everyone in game.
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Brina
[Dead]
31-03-2025 00:14
| yes |
Savage
[CWS]
31-03-2025 00:21
| Yes change it all..
People delaying entering their botchecks and logging out of dragon fights should be punishable like it is with bosses.
Soloing an Obby dragon when it's about to lock and someone hopping in is just as stupid.. bosses lock after 3 minutes, give dragons the same or if not a little longer.
The whole ore spawns as well is stupid, like you mentioned being stuck on the last gaman you practically give up a Titanium ore, so you are somewhat better not fighting the gamans and waiting...
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pedro
[Hobos]
31-03-2025 03:33
| Is this in part an admittance of your clan member manipulating the game mechanics in dragon fights to gain an unfair advantage in fighting dragons ?
but i agree something needs to be done to stop this happening especially when its a Mod that is the main culprit, as far as im concerned any form of manipulation of a loophole is cheating and needs be stopped and the player punished.
Edited on 31-03-2025 03:35
Edited on 31-03-2025 03:36
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fraggelmupp
[TLO]
31-03-2025 11:08
| Yes on all
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blubbber
[Arch]
31-03-2025 12:45
| good post, agree 100% |
Makarov
[CFH]
31-03-2025 13:32
| Great post, hope we can move with the times.
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bellabell3
[CLEAN]
31-03-2025 22:52
| This makes sense and it would fix most of the players frustrations in A5.
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Dark Helmet
[Arch]
01-04-2025 02:27
| Yep, agree with all of it |
Frank the Tank
[Arch]
01-04-2025 21:44
| "Soloing an Obby dragon when it's about to lock and someone hopping in is just as stupid.. bosses lock after 3 minutes, give dragons the same or if not a little longer."
No.
Obsidian scaled dragon is a group fight monster, not a boss. |
Amr
[World]
02-04-2025 20:14
| I agree with this thread Stormz
Well said |
chadRN
[~FoS~]
07-04-2025 23:57
| also opt to change timer of group timer to 10 sec between hits while solo... if someone hops in change to base group timer
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Ner0
[S.o.S]
08-04-2025 00:00
| too long did not read but as it is Aaron I am gonna say hell no!
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JFizzle
[Arch]
08-04-2025 00:59
| After more thought and reading others opinions. I have decided I like everything in the post, but I agree with Frank on the "Dragons aren't bosses" idea and should remain how they are, HOWEVER...
I really like Chads idea on the 10 seconds for dragon hits if soloing and then jump back to 30 seconds as soon as others join in.
And as I said earlier... keep titan gathering the same as it has been, but lower the spawn rate at 3 and 4 and add random titan spawns (and other ores) within AC5 as mention in the post. You get the best of both worlds and can play it either way... move a lot or camp. Play it your way!
EDIT: also, reconnect the spawns. It promotes team play from different combat levels being able to work together within different caves. This is more important than these other changes recommended and I still can't understand why it was changed... makes no sense from a game play point of view!!
Edited on 08-04-2025 01:05
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St0rmz_
[*TF*]
09-04-2025 22:08
| The Ten Second Tick would be epic on a dragon solo fight indeed !
However if it were to flip between the two it could be abused by taking a 3rd of the time to get down to a certain HP before another 1 or 2 join. (Im specifically thinking doing the quest here)
So id say just reduce it to 10 secs any way and if people die from it then i suppose thats more to fear ! .gif)
As for the style of boss fighting, i specifically had the end loot in mind, with the addition of starting the fights as a team, so a set window. (Basically removing this half health hp crap before anyone can join)
But the way the drops are for dragons, so last hit wins the loot, sucks...everyone should atleast get the chance of getting something, other than EXP.
We are all big girls and boys now! and after witnessing the lack of spawns down there and the amount of people in a fight, sometimes 4 and 5. There is very little resources to go about in hindsight.
I aint making a dragon suit or want one, but i still felt left out by the drops obtained compared to the fights done!
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