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Affliction
[Corps]
18-02-2021 16:58



Although I can understand the reasoning behind the adjustments, I feel they went too far.

I truly enjoyed the game again, having to plan my online time to get the most out of my day and the boss fights. Now, it's an AFK botchecking game once again for me and the boss fights simply aren't worth the effort.

I realize not everyone feels that way, but it seems the majority of those that actually fought the bosses do.

That being said, please answer the following question with a simple "yes" or "no."

Do you feel the boss adjustments went too far?

Moderator edit:
Note from developers:

We are not changing the stats for these bosses. The stats were changed based on feedback from players to increase their challenge and reduce the amount of XP rewarded which were deemed exceptionally high for the amount of work required. We MAY make small adjustments to them to tidy things up or review their drops but on the whole these four bosses are likely staying as they are for quite some time.

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Tintin2007
[Corps]
18-02-2021 16:59


Yes
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed, by so many to so few." Winston Churchill
Z3ll
[Corps]
18-02-2021 16:59



Yes.

It should have been an adjustment on timings only IMO.
Luck is when skill meets opportunity.
Bacon of Doom
[CLEAN]
18-02-2021 17:00



No.
Proud leader of Squeaky Clean

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Fortune favors the bold.
CheezyRN
[~FoS~]
18-02-2021 17:08



Yes.... hits armor break rate being adjusted is great but the nerfed xp and even more nerfed drops (which were already not worth fight) made it not worth at all which is why they sit there collecting dust. I know I can’t follow directions... “YES”
57 cheezy struck and dealt 57 damage to the Frost giant. 911/2000
smitts
[~ADV~]
18-02-2021 17:12


No
TermaMatrix
[Corps]
18-02-2021 17:13



Yes
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Raj
[Corps]
18-02-2021 17:17


Yes
Vampyre
[Corps]
18-02-2021 17:21



Without being able to fight them myself I can't say personally yes/no. However I by using my powers of observations I can say that yeah they apparently went too far with this "update".


Since staff are unlikely to admit they made a mistake and reverse the nerf (or at least soften/change it,) Guarentee that their next move will be to release another island or work location and lock it behind one or more of these bosses so that people are FORCED to fight them even though they aren't worth it currently.
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Aetris
[TLO]
18-02-2021 17:21



Yes
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Rag
[-OLD-]
18-02-2021 17:22


Yes

It should be indication enough that 2 of 4 bosses are abandoned.
So I guess everybody who sais "no" and is not fighting anymore simply does not want the bosses at all.
Savage
[LoC]
18-02-2021 17:28



As for the higher bosses I have no experience on those so cannot comment on them...

However I fought Emma today for the first time in a while and well here what I found...

I used way more food than I did before attempting to fight her and not only that the drops you get from her wouldn't even cover the HP I used.

Answer - Yes
Isaac
[AdC]
18-02-2021 17:42



Yes
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Oom Thys
[Snake]
18-02-2021 17:48



Yes
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Askeladd
[*TF*]
18-02-2021 17:54



No
God' is nothing more than a construct created by man to inspire fear and promote order.

If you wish to see me struck down, for all these atrocities, use your own hands to do so, not 'God's'.
Invictus91
[*TF*]
18-02-2021 17:55



Non
97 Critical hit: You struck and dealt 97 damage to the Yeti. 0/60
Redwingz
[~FoS~]
18-02-2021 18:00



Maybe reduce the armour break rate, but as for difficulty, not really. Get over it. They're group fight high level creatures. They're not meant to hit you with a feather. Organize, get 10 people in (I've seen as high as 39 people before, so that's not an issue). Seems you're just a little butthurt getting hit harder for an extra 8 minutes. Drops adjusted a little, sure maybe. Overall: The update did what it was supposed to but you all moan because you can't crush out 36k exp on Anders in 12 minutes.

Affy, you fought them naked except for a weapon. Get over it.
Vamp, why are you even attempting to contribute? You said yourself you've never fought them.. Same goes for Savage.

Edited on 18-02-2021 18:02
[3]04:12 Gods Messenger[~FoS~]: *skips to the outlands* Baby GM do do do Baby GM do do do, Let's go get free ore do do do Let's go get free ore do do do
Redwingz(123) attacked Twitxhy, and did 69 damage. Twitxhy had 0 HP left.
fraggelmupp
[TLO]
18-02-2021 18:03



No
Proud Leader of TLO

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Z3ll
[Corps]
18-02-2021 18:14



Savage fought emma a few hours back

are we saying only those that were activley fighting them get to comment?

I dont think ive ever seen Askeladd fight one, but because he said no he can comment but others cant, its a pole everyone gets an opinion...
Luck is when skill meets opportunity.
Redwingz
[~FoS~]
18-02-2021 18:15



Sure, you're right. I mostly got tired of reading peoples comments whose opinions don't matter. So, if you've fought 3 of 4 bosses prior to the update and after, then go ahead I think you're fair to judge. If you haven't, put a sock in it till you understand the mechanics.

Edit: typo

Edited on 18-02-2021 18:17
[3]04:12 Gods Messenger[~FoS~]: *skips to the outlands* Baby GM do do do Baby GM do do do, Let's go get free ore do do do Let's go get free ore do do do
Redwingz(123) attacked Twitxhy, and did 69 damage. Twitxhy had 0 HP left.
Ansem
[~one~]
18-02-2021 18:17


I'm on the fence. It makes sense for Anders to do more damage, but now he has more hp too, and the drops have been nerfed as well. As it is, it'll be almost impossible to get enough people to want to fight him.
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Vampyre
[Corps]
18-02-2021 18:20



Redwingz doesn't matter if you fight them or not. When you watch world chat and/or are in a clan with people who actively fight (or rather actively fought) them you can see the way the cookie crumbles unless you've not very observant.

Staff obviously made them unviable if 2 of the 4 went from being killed within 45 minutes of spawning to sitting for hours if not days.

*points to the original post* Also this was asked of everyone. It does not say "People who have fought the bosses ONLY". Last I checked I was part of "everyone" as is Savage.
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matty
[~FaM~]
18-02-2021 18:27


so, as I have not fought the bosses and cannot comment on the feel of the bosses. This does however allow me to analyze it objectively so let's do that by looking at the list of changes and providing ACTUAL feedback instead of personal opinions.

1. Bosses gained a lot more health and their stats were substantially increased to make them a slightly more daunting target.

This is fair as it is a boss fight after all not easy means of gains (not everything has to be the best experience for the time spent for it to be worth it)

2. Their rewards were a little too generous on release, we're blaming Halloween Ghosts and Gremlins messing with the database which have now been chased away, and rewards have been substantially reduced.

I Agree with the majority here, if the boss does not have any mechanical incentive to fight it and is there for enjoyment then the payoff needs to be better than the resources put into it.

3. Abilities were changed, some of them weren't quite hitting people hard enough. Bosses just weren't that challenging, so we sent all four of them back to Boss school and taught them some new tricks.

I reiterate this is good, it makes for a challenging boss encounter and helps with some of the gear flooding.. just don't wear your fancy specialty armor if you don't want it to break.

4. We can confirm though that Emma will remain as she is, she remains the introduction to Boss combat and her effective combat ability is still aimed at players of at least CL 60. We have however adjusted her combat ability slightly, her default attack will now be more effective against those of a much higher CL just in case, although this is more likely to affect those of treble digit combat levels.

Also good and provides a challenge to CL levels across the board. If you're 100+ cl and trying to farm a CL60 boss then you're doing it for the loot which justifies the loot nerf, but probably not to the extent it was.
+ (also this means they worked CL into the variable damage calc which is super awesome for the game going forward)

5.Anders does deserve a special mention in all this, his damage and stats will be raised significantly to make him worthy of being a higher tier boss, so many of you who have defeated him previously should be careful...he's gotten wise to some of your techniques now!

See response one to the buffs also tweaking him to combat the meta is a good thing.

______________

Overall these changes were made for the better and people need to understand that it needs to be looked at objectively across the board not just for the people that are currently taking advantage of it. Without being able to see the statistical changes that were made, barring the hp change, I'm unable to further assess the changes in any more depth.
Redwingz
[~FoS~]
18-02-2021 18:35



Vamp, your opinions have no weight because you have no idea what the actual mechanics do. Do you have the statistics on how many people dislike them and why? Do you have them categorized based on that? Do you have an actual fact or experienced based opinion of your own? Damn, no? Or are you just shoving your opinions in because you see a half hour biased bitching contest once a week and think that's a useful piece of information with no problem solving or constructive criticism in your answers? That's what I thought.

Edit: typo again Also this is not in response to matty above.. I had yet to see his post by the time I replied.

Edited on 18-02-2021 18:44
[3]04:12 Gods Messenger[~FoS~]: *skips to the outlands* Baby GM do do do Baby GM do do do, Let's go get free ore do do do Let's go get free ore do do do
Redwingz(123) attacked Twitxhy, and did 69 damage. Twitxhy had 0 HP left.
Askeladd
[*TF*]
18-02-2021 18:55



I got more weight here than probably anyone who has commented xD

Joking Aside, I was one of the first to jump in and fight emma because someone jumped in and almost locked it so I tried to help them I originally was gonna let some bosses slide first then fight one, we defeated her 2 man and we beat the first boss to spawn in the game.

Since then I have fought Emma a few times but my goals and efforts take me away from fighting bosses.

Edited on 18-02-2021 18:56
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