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Solunar
[Choob]
27-02-2020 13:13



TLDR: The cost of training Construction is minimised by repeatedly building 50k slot Clan Stockhouses.


Table 1 - Resources Required for Building Clan Stockhouses:
SizeGPWoodStoneIron BarsSteel BarsSilver BarsGold BarsBat HidesTotal Materials
50,00050,00020,0005000000020,500
100,000100,00020,0001,000500000021,500
150,000150,00020,0001,5001,000000022,500
250,000250,00040,0002,00002,000001,00044,000
500,000500,000100,0005,000010,000002,000115,000
750,000750,000100,0005,0000010,00002,000115,000
1,000,0001,000,000100,0005,000001,00002,000106,000
Note: "Total Materials" does not take into account the GP cost.


Table 2 - Assumed Material Costs:
GPWoodStoneIron BarsSteel BarsSilver BarsGold BarsBat Hides
10.5 - 115 - 85 - 1010 - 1480 - 1205 - 20
Note: Prices were obtained from: Forum -> Market -> Price Guide


Table 3 - Clan Stockhouse Price Estimates (High & Low):
SizeTotal GP (Low)GP/Resource (Low)Total GP (High)GP/Resource (High)
50,00060,5002.9570,5003.44
100,000113,5005.28125,0005.81
150,000166,5007.40179,5007.98
250,000287,0006.52332,0007.55
500,000615,0005.35745,0006.48
750,000915,0007.961,035,0009.00
1,000,0001,075,00010.141,159,00010.93
Note: Low and high estimates were calculated using the lowest and highest costs of each resource, respectively.
Note: "Price/Resource" was calculate by dividing the "Total GP" by "Total Materials" from Table 1.


Description:
Hopefully you can see that 50k slots by far the cheapest stockhouse size to build, in terms of both total cost and cost / resource. Luckily, stockhouses can be demolished, which allows clans to designate a single SH to repeatedly build and demolish for continuous Construction exp. The following section will demonstrate why this option is even cheaper than training Construction at the Universities.


Table 4 - Exp Cost of Universities vs. Building 50k SH:
LevelExpActions (Uni)GP / Action (Uni)Total GP (Uni)Resources / Action (SH)XP / Action (SH)XP / Resource (SH)Total Resources (SH)Total GP (Low) (SH)Total GP (High) (SH)
111225408.01.445
2122245408.04.51315
34852105408.010.33035
413082165408.019.15666
5283133395408.031.894109
6537203605408.048.1142166
7922283845408.068.8203236
814723831145408.094.1278324
922255042005408.0124.3367427
10321964425656012.0106.5314366
11449781432456012.0133.7394460
12610199439656012.0164.8486567
138079120560056012.0199.8590687
1410477144572056012.0239.1706822
1513346170585056012.0282.5834972
1616736199599556012.0330.49751136
17207012306138056012.0383.011301317
18252972656159056012.0440.312991514
19305803026181256012.0502.314821728
20366083426205256012.0569.316801958
21434403857269556012.0641.718942207
22511404327302456012.0719.121222473
23597694827337456012.0801.923672758
24693925357374556012.0890.226273061
25800745918472810808.01476.343575077
26918846518520810808.01625.847985591
271048907148571210808.01783.952656135
281191617818624810808.01951.057586710
291347698519765910808.02127.362787316
301517879269833410808.02312.668257953
3117028810039902710808.02507.574008623
3219034810859976510808.02711.980039326
332120431171101171010808.02926.0863510063
342354511260101260010808.03150.0929610833
352606511354101354010808.03383.9998711637
362877221452101452010808.03628.01070712477
373167461553111708310808.03882.51145813352
383478061659111824910808.04147.31223914262
393809841770111947010808.04422.61305215210
4041636518841120724151006.75650.71667619433
4145403620031224036151006.76006.91772820658
4249408221261225512151006.76376.51881821929
4353659222541227048151006.76759.51994923246
4458165523861228632151006.77155.92111924609
4562936125221332786151006.77565.92232826019
4667980026641334632151006.77989.92358027477
4773306628101336530151006.78427.62487228983
4878925029601338480151006.78879.72620630538
4984844831161443624151006.79345.92758232141
5091075432761445864151006.79826.52900033794
5197626434411448174151006.710322.03046235497
52104507736111450554151006.710831.73196737250
53111728837861556790151006.711356.73351639056
54119299939661559490151006.711896.43510940912
55127230841511562265201206.013834.84083047578
56135531743411565115201206.014468.34269949757
57144212745361672576201206.015119.24462051995
58153284247371675792201206.015787.24659154292
59162756549421679072201206.016472.54861456649
60172640051531682448201206.017175.75068959068
61182945453691791273201206.017896.35281661546
62193683255911795047201206.018635.25499664087
63204864358181798906201206.019391.75722966688
642164993605017102850201206.020166.75951669354
652285993628818113184201206.020959.86185772081
662411752653218117576201206.021771.56425274873
672542381678118122058201206.022601.86670377728
682677992703618126648201206.023451.06920980649
692818698729619138624201206.024318.87177083633
702964611756219143678251405.627006.17970192875
713115845783419148846251405.627977.18256796214
723272517811219154128251405.628968.68549399624
733434741839520167900251405.629981.188481103106
743602635868520173700251405.631014.591530106659
753776316898020179600251405.632068.994642110286
763955902928120185620251405.633144.697817113985
774141512958821201348251405.634241.8101055117758
784333266990121207921251405.635360.5104357121606
7945312851022121214641251405.636501.1107723125528
8047356911054621221466251405.637663.4111153129525
8149466061087822239316251405.638847.5114648133598
8251641521121622246752251405.640053.8118207137746
8353884531156022254320251405.641282.5121834141972
8456196351191022262020251405.642533.4125525146273
8558578221226623282118301605.345997.3135748158186
8661031411262923290467301605.347358.4139765162867
8763557191299923298977301605.348743.1143851167629
8866156821337423307602301605.350152.1148010172474
8968831601375724330168301605.351585.2152239177403
9071582811414524339480301605.353042.8156541182416
9174411761454024348960301605.354524.8160915187512
9277319751494224358608301605.356031.4165361192693
9380308091535125383775301605.357562.9169881197960
9483378111576625394150301605.359118.9174473203311
9586531121618725404675301605.360700.5179141208751
9689768481661625415400301605.362306.8183881214275
9793091511705126443326301605.363938.4188696219886
9896501561749326454818301605.365595.8193587225585
99100000001794126466466301605.367278.6198554231373
100103588191839726478322351805.171542.1211137246035
Note: Training Construction at Universities yields 20 EXP / Action, which is constant.
Note: "Actions (Uni)" refers to the total number of actions required to raise your level to the next.
Note: "XP / Resource (SH)" was calculated by dividing "XP / Action (SH)" by "Resource / Action (SH)".
Note: "Total Resources (SH)" refers to the total amount of Materials (used in building a 50k slot SH) required to raise your level the next.


Summary:
1) Despite potential variations in Material Prices, the cost of training Construction can be minimised by repeately building new 50k slot clan Stockhouses. This in comparison to upgrading existing Stockhouses to larger sizes, as well as training Construction at any of the Universities.
2) Training Construction (or Trading) at Universities comes with a potential risk of being thieved as you are just sitting there with some GP in your pocket.
3) This guide tries to optimise the training of Construction for minimal GP cost. It does not take into account the amount of time required. You may therefore find that other options yield quick rates of Exp gain.
4) Obviously resources are subject to price variations. I've tried to account for this by having a fairly wide range of price estimates.
5) Potentially the biggest drawback of this method is the fact that to fully take advantage of it, you will need to designate a specific SH to repeatedly demolish and rebuild. This means that you will lose access to a communual storage space on the region that you designate to do this in. VERY IMPORTANT: IF YOU FOLLOW THIS GUIDE, MAKE SURE TO REMOVE ANY ITEM IN THE STOCKHOUSE BEFORE YOU DEMOLISH IT, OTHERWISE IT WILL BE PERMENANTLY LOST.

Future Work:
1) I need to calculate + write up the estimated costs of building houses, shops + boats. I've done a quick estimate, and the 50k SH is still the cheapest option.
2) At some point I will try to find which option is best for fastest Exp gain.

Edited on 27-02-2020 13:20
~Sol~ :D
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Lamb
[CFH]
27-02-2020 13:49



Nice post. All in all it looks like at level 25 you should only build SHs. The exp changes from 60 exp/180 seconds at level 24 to 80 exp / 180 seconds. Stockhouses seem to be cheaper the whole way through after level 25, and will ALWAYS be more exp/hour after level 25.
I could be drawing the wrong conclusions, but its what its looking like to me
2015-08-20 02:38:27 Lamb killed Lambchops
[3]22:42 00hed[CFH]: A wolf in sheep's clothing? Haha
Anarcho FooBear
[World]
27-02-2020 14:44



This will make a fine addition to my calculator

EDIT: Got all my screenshots, I'll work on the calculator after I sleep

Edited on 27-02-2020 14:47
[W]01:55 bellabell3[Loyal]: going crazy is really a good way to stay sane :D

[2]14:53 Amr[World]: this is called autism

You have married Marley!
Brina
[-OLD-]
29-02-2020 19:31



I'm not seeing the destroy stockhouse option to do a rebuild. Could someone point me to what I'm missing? thanks
Solunar
[Choob]
01-03-2020 00:47



So, I've just learned that the only way you can demolish a stockhouse is by disbanding the entire clan.
~Sol~ :D
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