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spindoc
[Zen]
26-09-2009 20:46



Attention everyone,

As of right now the staff have decided to release some information regarding this subject for now. After much discussion we have decided the following:

1. The staff has determined that it is indeed unfair and undesirable behaviour to intentionally lag out another player. While we all understand that OL speed is completely dependent on one's connection this issue causes a potentially unequal issue to become more unequal. We therefore are stepping in to level the playing field a bit more.

2. As of right now we are collecting the names of every player who are reported to have dropped more than 2-3 items in OL. Any player wishing to report such behaviour should send in a ticket with as many details as possible to the Multi/Cheat Department. Remember simply saying a player engages in such activity does not help without any details. We are concerned with in NEW offenses that happen after this warning.

3. We are still discussing punishment and this post functions as a warning for all players to not engage in this activity anymore. The staff does not find this action acceptable whatsoever.

Edited on 26-09-2009 21:22
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Deedar
[SoT]
26-09-2009 20:48



*claps*
Evert
[Pond]
26-09-2009 20:49



Nicely done.
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Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 20:49


Great stuff mod team!
SirTheta
[MAAN]
26-09-2009 20:51


I'm concerned spindoc, you're only allowed to drop 2-3 items? That would hardly constitute a proper bait trap.

Edit - Okay spindoc.

Edited on 26-09-2009 20:55
Jaime Lannister
[~X~]
26-09-2009 20:51



i dropped about 200 things earlier when cradle gave me a hug,does that count?
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spindoc
[Zen]
26-09-2009 20:53



SirTheta: While your concern is understand, we feel a limit is best for now to at least level out the playing field a bit more. When an ultimate fix is determined, we'll go from there.
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HeartOfTheSun
[Earth]
26-09-2009 20:54



Like I said in the other thread, there may be a css workaround to stop it affecting you for the time being.
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dyla123
[Cyber]
26-09-2009 20:54



Cool Great stuff

Edited on 26-09-2009 22:02
esnow
[Manc]
26-09-2009 20:54



Does this mean that any player who doesn't pick up death drops right away will also be punished? If you kill someone and they drop 100+ different items, and then stay and kill others before picking everything up and leaving the OL, you will be punished? Or do you really have to stay there and click to pick up stuff endangering your own life?
[To: orange]18:41 esnow: Get in my belly!
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 20:56


Intentionally dropping id say esnow..
Or however that word above is spelt
esnow
[Manc]
26-09-2009 20:57



I could argue that any low level that goes to OL is intentionally trying to die with all their items.
[To: orange]18:41 esnow: Get in my belly!
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 20:58


XD esnow that was giving away a heap of junk taking up space in the one puny house i have
esnow
[Manc]
26-09-2009 20:59



Well, it took me a good 10-15 seconds to pick everything up. That's 5-7 hits if someone else was there. Would I have been punished for leaving it on the ground and continuing to kill people as they passed through OL 35?
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Masque
26-09-2009 20:59



Yay for a witch hunt.

So what happens when you endorse harassment indirectly? If I drop 50 items in the OL and the PKer only picks up 10, does this mean I get to report them for abusing a bug?
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HeartOfTheSun
[Earth]
26-09-2009 21:01



There will be ways to check who dropped the items.
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pipster
[RBorn]
26-09-2009 21:01


it takes what 2-3 seconds to pick up hundreds of thusands of items? 10-15 seconds? you must of been picking through it mightly slow.
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 21:02


Esnow, no i think if its you actually drop them as in click drop items..
Leaving them rhere would be another thing, as people suicide against people alot.. and sometimes people would walk off without noticing the other player did.. therefore leaving a drop on the ground..

Edited on 26-09-2009 21:02
Hazgod
26-09-2009 21:02


I think the point is you aren't dropping them to make people lag so you can kill them. The best way to actually fix the problem is to test it out and work out a number of items that causes an issue, then limit the number shown at once to slightly less than that amount. Drop what you want or kill someone with loads or items, either way no lag will be caused as a result of too many items getting processed at once
Ihit Youdie
26-09-2009 21:06


2009-09-26 21:01 Senior Moderator

Since this has only officially been declared an abuse in the last 5 minutes, I'm not sure you can expect retroactive punishments for something that is not actually against the rules.

We will look forward to and appreciate your documentation of future events since it will help us start a list of players on warning.

Simply saying a player does it, is less useful than actually giving us details. We are particularly interested in NEW offenses that occur after the warning has been publically delivered.

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esnow
[Manc]
26-09-2009 21:07



I am not arguing, I am just trying to get clarification. Does the PKer get punished if he leaves death drops on the ground and they happen to lag people for some reason?
[To: orange]18:41 esnow: Get in my belly!
SirTheta
[MAAN]
26-09-2009 21:07


Viperslfc - I share the same concern as esnow. I'm also single

it takes what 2-3 seconds to pick up hundreds of thusands of items? 10-15 seconds? you must of been picking through it mightly slow.

Depends on your connection. Also, we're talking about 100 different items here, not the necessarily the same.
Masque
26-09-2009 21:09



See, for once I agree with esnow.

Where is the line drawn in what can remain and what can't in terms of abuse being cried about the bug? Not everyone wants to pick up every single piece of a death drop, burnts, glass, etc. Some of it remains on the ground, does this mean I can go back and check if the PKer got all my stuff and if they didn't file a report?

Honestly. Clarification is necessary.
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Rictor
[~X~]
26-09-2009 21:10



I think an option to quickly disable the drop box would be an easy fix to all this mess.

If your crossing OLs just to move across you could turn it off and not experience any lag from items on the ground. Obviously if your there to PK, then your your call.

Anyway, I support this. Something needed done.
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Jop
[~X~]
26-09-2009 21:11



Senior mod has pretty much confirmed that those who may have already done it wont be punished.

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