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Become
[~FaM~]
25-05-2009 18:23



i agree preff for replacing obama he'll do much better

Moderator edit:
Please stay on topic.
Mr. Addy
Keeping this game free by adding ads to every topic
Masquerade
[Wisky]
25-05-2009 20:25


As I am a new player to Syrnia, I have liked the gameplay so far. Yet thought I am not a frequent chatter, I still see some concerns and actions. Reading this post, I have found out there is "behind the scenes" difficulties. All games have this integrated into their game, some know of it, and others don't care.

I would like to submit an idea for the Moderator, and Public to be on the same page, and maybe see each others point of view and come to a consensus of terms.

Two days of the month, the moderators come to public and address their problems with the public. In a timely matter, I say two days at the most the post be open to the public gameplay, any player who decides they want to give their "two-cents" worth on the problem can. Polls, and voting can take place to see what the public has agreed to. The moderators will come to their own decision and come to the public and give it out in a post. Then the public will have one last time to stand for their side and come to agreement with the moderator problems and hopefully settle it.

I will not choose the days, or times of how long a post could be open to the public, but hopefully setting up this type of "concern" will maybe help the gameplay behind the scene in syrnia.

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If moderators are subjected to be strict over to one part of gameplay, and only do their job on that part, it wouldn't be "inconsistent" and "vaguely" responsible for another moderators troubles, but if you have two moderators watching over something, you will get mixed reviews and problems. I highly doubt syrnia, has a wide standing on their moderator views and responsibilities to the players, thus so many concerns of players. Don't limit your powers to just a few people, be equal to every player and maybe have a "Player of every point of view" be part of the moderator community.

Edited on 25-05-2009 20:33
Rictor
[~X~]
26-05-2009 03:16



lol, shame i missed this when it first came out.

I just want to point out one thing, some food for thought if you will.


Angry syrnians always complain there is no communication from staff and players.

Staff then communicates with players to try to fix this.

Players then just mock them and post nothing but closed minded rubbish in reply.


Nice chain of events. I really think that anyone that posted something negative on this post should sit back and consider how they are really acting. I mean are you all still in the "I'm a teenager I hate everything i possibly can just because" stage?

The community of this game gets worse and worse every week, and all you do is blame the moderation. You really need to wake up and realize when to take some of the blame yourselves and stop acting like children.
No longer doing normal OL transportation, please don't message me unless you have a large transport.

72/73 The Roodarus struck at Rictor and hit 1 damage.

[3]02:04 sweetdarklord[~X~]: ~gyrates hideously~
Jeffreyj
[Pond]
26-05-2009 04:46



Hitting the nail there Rictor.
Amen to that!
37th player reaching mining level 80
32nd player reaching mining level 85
2Feb2009: 02:36 Jeffreyj[Pond]: You have 1 Syriet ore

Started playing: 2 juli 2005
Preff
[Pub]
26-05-2009 05:02


Rictor and Jeffrey, had you been in chat with us and Spinny when this was being discussed, you would know that Spinny wanted ALL feedback/comments, be they positive, negative or even apathetic. Our input is actually being welcomed, for a change. It was a bold move on Spinnys part and a very noble one too.

Now heres a little food for you two, rather than just snipe from the sidelines and gripe about things like "community is getting worse" try actually participating, like we did with Spinny. Who knows, when we all know where we stand, we MIGHT find a common ground and the community MIGHT improve. Just a thought.
Rictor
[~X~]
26-05-2009 05:07



"lol, shame i missed this when it first came out."

If I had been here I surely would have. Maybe next time someone will whisper me to come to world chat
No longer doing normal OL transportation, please don't message me unless you have a large transport.

72/73 The Roodarus struck at Rictor and hit 1 damage.

[3]02:04 sweetdarklord[~X~]: ~gyrates hideously~
Preff
[Pub]
26-05-2009 05:13


I'll whisper you next time personally. Spinny is going to inform us of somethings regarding the not so focussed focus groups next, so get ready. lol
Sweet_Thing
[~one~]
26-05-2009 05:51



I am ready lol
[2] 08:07 AstiaDragonkill[Soul]: yer so outta shape you coulnt chase a twinkie out of tha wrapper!
RedWyrm
[Wild]
26-05-2009 06:29



I'd like to hear what is happening with the focus group .. that was one of the better ideas to come about lately. However, more important, any ideas, improvements, etc, they come up with will have to be coded .. what's the chances? That's something I'll be interested to hear about as well!! XD XD
Question everything?
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Jeffreyj
[Pond]
26-05-2009 08:08



Preff, if the chat wasn't that messed up I might switch it back on after 2 years.
However looking in chat history now and then doesn't really give me alot of hope for the future right now.

Maybe in a next lifetime
37th player reaching mining level 80
32nd player reaching mining level 85
2Feb2009: 02:36 Jeffreyj[Pond]: You have 1 Syriet ore

Started playing: 2 juli 2005
Preff
[Pub]
26-05-2009 09:56


I happen to agree, chat for the most part has become nothing but dross, and I spend large periods of time avoiding it like a Lepers Kiss, but I do make the effort here and there.

I make the effort for two main reasons:

1) There are still a few players who have been here a while, that do still venture into chat, if only briefly, and I enjoy talking to them.

2) If all the experienced, older players avoid chat, then the n00bs and Spoons have won. Chat will continue to slide down the slope its on and become nothing but song/artist, spam and crap we're seeing it become already.

Too many of the older players don't feel comfortable talking in chat, not just because of the Spoons and Muppets though, the Mods have played a part in this too. There have been too many instances of Mutes for little infractions whilst other infractions go unpunished. Others feel they have been victimised by Mods due to a clan issue or some other perceived bias too.

Hopefully the communications with Spinny will hopefully lay a lot of the later instances to rest, clear the air a bit, and the older players will be able to return to the chat we used to have as recently as 2007. Like I said in my last post, if we all know where we stand, we might find some common ground, and the community might improve
smitts
[~ADV~]
26-05-2009 10:36


Rictor's point was fairly decent, except for this:

"I'm a teenager I hate everything i possibly can just because"

Stereotypical rubbish, adults here are far worse
genezen
[~X~]
26-05-2009 10:39



I've only been here a little over 2 years, Never had chat turned off up until a few weeks ago when the mods chose to ticket me for every comment made in chat or the forums. I have since given up on chat, and I only reply to the forums that seem to be headed in the correct direction.

I do truly hope that this attempt at communication, between players and staff, does its purpose and the staff does actually listen to the thoughts and opinions of the players.

Thank you Spin for taking the time to keep us informed. It is very appreciated, Now lets see if we can take a step forward through this communication, instead of 2 steps back.
"Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds."
Become
[~FaM~]
26-05-2009 14:01



I mean are you all still in the "I'm a teenager I hate everything i possibly can just because" stage?

I am still in that stage

The community of this game gets worse and worse every week, and all you do is blame the moderation. You really need to wake up and realize when to take some of the blame yourselves and stop acting like children.

thats why i dont talk


P.S. The comment on replacing obama was as on topic as the one as for president above saying the same thing


I 100% agree rictor
Rictor
[~X~]
26-05-2009 16:28



Smitts, my point was adults are acting like children...lol
No longer doing normal OL transportation, please don't message me unless you have a large transport.

72/73 The Roodarus struck at Rictor and hit 1 damage.

[3]02:04 sweetdarklord[~X~]: ~gyrates hideously~
Jester
[Zen]
26-05-2009 16:29


You guys are funny.
smitts
[~ADV~]
26-05-2009 18:37


but you are stereotyping how children act

as you are stating adults act in this way. Not all children act in this way, maybe the small amount that do are acting like adults ?

Moderator edit:
Please refer to the header on the Thread and stay on Topic please?
19.12 27-5-09
MiddleGA
[Solus]
26-05-2009 22:03


re: "Angry syrnians always complain there is no communication from staff and players.Staff then communicates with players to try to fix this. Players then just mock them and post nothing but closed minded rubbish in reply."

Wrong, not "always".

My overriding complaint is and pretty consistently has been the lack of rational adult leadership for the game, not a lack of communication from whatever clique is running things. The communication issues are a symptom, not the problem and as far as I'm concerned the only hope for actual improvement lies with the faint hope that actual new ownership would emerge from outside the game with zero confidence that anything would get better from having anyone currently affiliated with the game. The last bit is about the further thing from the truth I can think of really.

So no, not "always".
goodlife
[TGA]
27-05-2009 01:52



I think this post shows a willingness and a desire by the mod staff...or at the very least spindoc...to improve the game and the community. I think we should all look at that as a positive thing. Modding isn't easy especially when a lot of times judgments calls are required. No two people are going to view/react in the
exact same way no matter how precisely the rules are spelled out.


I will remain optimistic that there are good things to come and I look forward to hearing more updates from spindoc.

Thanks spindoc for your efforts....they're not unnoticed.

goodlife
My pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses my understanding....even as the stone of the fruit must break that it's heart may stand in the sun....so must I know pain.
EvilParlay
[FFX]
20-07-2009 22:31


Kind of funny I been gone two months almost becasue of work and what not I come back and lets see to hear that someone is not in world chat but wanted whispered to join world chat that they themselves have turned off for whatever reason... Thinks that the few of us that try again and again to see the game we once really enjoyed playing before some really upseting things occured repeatedly. I have myself made friends of most of the people in this game that didnt like me here in other games.. I have on the other hand not been here to play have missed alot about how things will hopefully change for the better I am a believer in change... Change is hard but good new fresh starts are something to be tried and see if they actually exist. I believe that the staff really wants to try to make this a better place. We have been told that before lets see if a change actually comes about. Lets put our best foot forward and see what the future of Syrnia will be. I am willing and I can tell you I have suffered from the stupidest of punishments I believe that we can have fun and a change especially if spindoc says it is possible why else would I bother try again in this game lol I been happy without this game in my life lately
MoorCat
[Nexus]
21-07-2009 22:19


English only:
I speak American english and as such I might say "You need to wipe that dirt off your chin with a clean napkin." To American english speakers this is a clean statement. But to British/Australian english speakers this could be taken as a dirty statement (because American napkin is a British/Australian serviette and a British napkin is an American feminine napkin.) So some may find this inappropriate but others not. So to be consistently and equatably moded the term "napkin" should be put on a list of words not to be chatted. This was just an example and the purpose was to show that there needs to be a list of inappropriate words so all will know what is inappropriate since we come from different cultures. This will also reduce one mod punishing for something that another mod does not punish - thus reducing confusion and the feelings of bias and unequally applied moderation.

Gray area:
When the mods have a gray area discussion then the rules should be clarified to encompass that gray area so its a black and white issue. Once the Rules are modified then all players can know the new mod understanding.
Crow
[~NS~]
21-07-2009 23:06



A British Napkin is a table napkin the same as a serviette (which in Britain usually means its disposable/paper rather than cloth). A nappy is our equivalent to a diaper. As for a feminine napkin we have many names for them, but not napkin.

But I am sure this is not the place for discussing the niceties of language

Edited on 21-07-2009 23:07
Your gonna have to face it your addicted to Crow ;)
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MoorCat
[Nexus]
21-07-2009 23:21


Crow: Wiki, my past girfriend and many others must have all been wrong then. Please see "This was just an example and the purpose was to show..."
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